Integration of a exponential squared function

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The discussion revolves around the integration of exponential squared functions, specifically the integrals \(\int e^{x^2} dx\) and \(\int y^2 e^{y^2} dy\). Participants explore both indefinite and definite integrals, discussing the challenges and methods related to these types of integrals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks if it is possible to integrate the functions \(\int e^{x^2} dx\) and \(\int y^2 e^{y^2} dy\), noting that the book states there is no direct method for these integrals.
  • Another participant suggests that while indefinite integrals do not have expressions in terms of elementary functions, numerical methods can be used to evaluate definite integrals given appropriate limits.
  • A later post clarifies that the specific integral \(\int_{1}^{2} y^2 e^{1/y^2} dy\) is part of a double integral and seeks a general solution for such problems.
  • One participant argues that the derivative of \(e^{1/y^2}\) does not resemble \(y^2 e^{1/y^2}\), asserting that the integral cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions.
  • Another participant mentions that the definite integral can be computed numerically to any desired precision, but emphasizes that it lacks a closed form solution in terms of elementary functions.
  • There is a suggestion to consider the integrals in relation to normal density functions, although the relevance of this point is not fully explored.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the indefinite integrals do not have solutions in terms of elementary functions. However, there is no consensus on the methods or approaches to evaluate the definite integrals, with some advocating for numerical methods while others emphasize the lack of closed form solutions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of expressing certain integrals in elementary terms and the reliance on numerical methods for evaluation. There are also unresolved mathematical steps regarding the transformation of variables and the implications for the integrals discussed.

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Is it possible to integrate this function
[tex]\int {e^{x^2}} dx[/tex]

[tex] \int \left (y^2) e^{y^2} dy[/tex]

The book says there is no direct method to solve this type of integrals but there is no hint how to solve this.Any one please help.

Thanks :)

Sorry for the latex code i have put the integration function code but its no coming up may be there is a mistake in the code.
 
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The functions are possible to integrate in the sense that given limits for the integral you can find the numerical value of it (as long as the limits are such that the integral doesn't diverge, which both of your examples would if a limit was [itex]\pm \infty[/itex]), though you may need to do so using a numerical method.

The indefinite integrals are still integrable, however, there is no expression for either in terms of 'elementary functions' like e^(something), tan, cos, etc. Functions can be defined in terms of integrals. For example, the error function is defined as

[tex]\mbox{erf}(x) = \frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}}\int_0^x dt~e^{-t^2}[/tex]

(Note the minus sign in the exponential makes it different from your first example, at least for real valued x.)
 
oh i actually have limits i wanted to have a general solution of these type of problems and the actual problem goes like this
[tex]\int_{1}^{2} {y^2}{e^{1/y^2}}[/tex]
 
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No, it is NOT.

The derivative of
[tex]e^{1/y^2}[/tex]
is
[tex]-\frac{2e^{1/y^{2}}}{y^{3}}[/tex]

That is nothing like
[tex]y^2e^{1/y^2}[/tex]

[tex]y^2 e^{1/y^2}[/tex]
cannot be integrated in terms of elementary functions.
 
Note that

[tex] \int_{-\infty}^\infty \frac 1 {\sqrt{2 \pi \sigma^2}} e^{-\frac{(x-\mu)^2}{2\sigma^2}} \, dx = 1[/tex]

try dressing your integrals up as multiples of a specific normal density.
 
so is it really possible to solve
[tex]\int_{1}^{2} {y^2}{e^{1/y^2}}[/tex]

Actually it is a part of double integral the double integral was

[tex]\int_{1}^{2}\int_{1}^{y^2}e^(x/y^2)dxdy[/tex]
 
farmd684 said:
so is it really possible to solve
[tex]\int_{1}^{2} {y^2}{e^{1/y^2}}[/tex]

It is possible to find the value using a computer to whatever number of digits you want. The corresponding definite integral does not have a solution in terms of elementary functions. The change of variables [itex]u = 1/y^2[/itex] will result in the integral of [itex]\sqrt{u}e^u[/itex], which has no closed form solution (in terms of elementary functions).
 

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