Integration of partial derivative

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The discussion revolves around the integration of partial derivatives in the context of plane stress for a body with specified stress components. Participants are tasked with finding the shear stress component \tauxy given the stress equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration of partial derivatives and the necessity of including arbitrary functions during integration. There is an exploration of the implications of these functions on the final expression for \tauxy.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the integration process and the roles of arbitrary functions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need for distinct functions of x and y, and there is ongoing exploration of how to determine these functions.

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There is a focus on ensuring that the representations of \tauxy are consistent and the need to clarify the roles of the arbitrary functions introduced during integration. Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings related to the integration process.

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Homework Statement


Given a body in a state of plane stress with no body forces where
[tex]\sigma[/tex]x=x2y
[tex]\sigma[/tex]y=(y3-3y)/3

Find [tex]\tau[/tex]xy


Homework Equations


For plane stress
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]x/[tex]\partial[/tex]x + [tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]y + X = 0

[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]y/[tex]\partial[/tex]y + [tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]x + Y = 0

No body forces: X=0 Y=0

Simplified:
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]x/[tex]\partial[/tex]x = -[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]y

[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]y/[tex]\partial[/tex]y = -[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]x

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]x/[tex]\partial[/tex]x = 2xy

[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]y/[tex]\partial[/tex]y = y2-1

Putting this into above equations gives:
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]y = -2xy
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]x = -y2+1

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy = [tex]\int[/tex]-2xy[tex]\partial[/tex]y
[tex]\tau[/tex]xy = -y2x

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy = [tex]\int[/tex]-y2+1[tex]\partial[/tex]x
[tex]\tau[/tex]xy = -y2x + x

These should both be equal, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I think its my integration.
Please help.
 
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acg8934 said:

Homework Statement


Given a body in a state of plane stress with no body forces where
[tex]\sigma[/tex]x=x2y
[tex]\sigma[/tex]y=(y3-3y)/3

Find [tex]\tau[/tex]xy


Homework Equations


For plane stress
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]x/[tex]\partial[/tex]x + [tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]y + X = 0

[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]y/[tex]\partial[/tex]y + [tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]x + Y = 0

No body forces: X=0 Y=0

Simplified:
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]x/[tex]\partial[/tex]x = -[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]y

[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]y/[tex]\partial[/tex]y = -[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]x

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]x/[tex]\partial[/tex]x = 2xy

[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\sigma[/tex]y/[tex]\partial[/tex]y = y2-1

Putting this into above equations gives:
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]y = -2xy
[tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy/[tex]\partial[/tex]x = -y2+1

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy = [tex]\int[/tex]-2xy[tex]\partial[/tex]y
[tex]\tau[/tex]xy = -y2x

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\partial[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]xy = [tex]\int[/tex]-y2+1[tex]\partial[/tex]x
[tex]\tau[/tex]xy = -y2x + x

These should both be equal, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I think its my integration.
Please help.

You forgot that when you do partial integration, say with respect to y, you have to add an arbitrary function of x. Similarly when you integrate partially with respect to x you have to add an arbitrary function of y. This will give you the necessary freedom to determine your unknown function.
 
Ok, but doing that gives me

[tex]\tau[/tex]xy=-y2x + f(x) for the first

and

[tex]\tau[/tex]xy=-y2x + x + f(y)

Is that correct? If so how do I figure out what the actual [tex]\tau[/tex]xy is?

Thanks
 
Don't use f as both a function of x alone and another function of y alone.

So you have T(x, y) = -y^2x + f(x), and
T(x, y) = -y^2x + x + g(y).
Edit: added x in the line above.

Does that help?

My LaTeX doesn't seem to be rendering correctly, so I switched tau to T.
 
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How do I find f(x) and g(y)?

I know the tau's should be equal.
 
I omitted x from the 2nd representation by accident. Both forms of T(x, y) have -y2x. The first representation doesn't have any functions of y alone, so g(y) = ? The 2nd representation has x, so f(x) = ?
 
So does that mean f(x)=x and g(y)=0? So Txy=-y^2x+x?
 
Almost. g(y) = C, a constant. So T(x, y) = -xy^2 + x + C.
 

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