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How about these?
∫tan^3xdx
∫(sin^4x cos^2x)dx
∫tan^3xdx
∫(sin^4x cos^2x)dx
The discussion revolves around the integration of trigonometric functions, specifically focusing on the integrals of \( \tan^3(x) \) and \( \sin^4(x) \cos^2(x) \). Participants explore various methods and identities for solving these integrals, including the use of Pythagorean identities, double-angle identities, and power reduction formulas.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for integrating the functions discussed. There are multiple approaches and some confusion about specific identities and their applications, indicating a lack of agreement on certain steps in the integration process.
Some participants express uncertainty about the application of identities and the steps involved in the integration process, particularly regarding the transition between different forms of the integrals. There are unresolved questions about specific terms in the integrands and how to handle them during integration.
paulmdrdo said:How about these?
∫tan^3xdx
∫(sin^4x cos^2x)dx
Prove It said:...I would try to use more double angle identities to avoid the power reduction formulae (which I can never remember)...
MarkFL said:We are actually doing the same thing. The power reduction identity I had in mind is:
$$\sin^2(\theta)=\frac{1-\cos(2\theta)}{2}$$
Prove It said:I thought you were referring to the power reduction formula to integrate [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \sin^{n}{(x)} \end{align*}[/math], not the double angle identity for cosine...
where did you get the sin4x/4 part?Prove It said:I usually prefer converting to sines and cosines first...
[math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{\tan^3{(x)}\,dx} &= \int{\frac{\sin^3{(x)}}{\cos^3{(x)}}\,dx} \\ &= \int{ \frac{\sin{(x)}\sin^2{(x)}}{\cos^3{(x)}}\,dx} \\ &= \int{ \frac{\sin{(x)} \left[ 1 - \cos^2{(x)} \right] }{\cos^3{(x)}} \, dx} \\ &= \int{ \frac{-\sin{(x)}\left[ \cos^2{(x)} - 1 \right] }{\cos^3{(x)}}\,dx} \end{align*}[/math]
Now let [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = \cos{(x)} \implies du = -\sin{(x)}\,dx \end{align*}[/math] and the integral becomes
[math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{\frac{ -\sin{(x)}\left[ \cos^2{(x)} - 1 \right] }{\cos^3{(x)}}\,dx} &= \int{ \frac{u^2 - 1}{u^3}\,du} \\ &= \int{ \frac{1}{u} - u^{-3}\,du} \\ &= \ln{ |u|} + \frac{1}{2}u^{-2} + C \\ &= \ln{ \left| \cos{(x)} \right| } + \frac{1}{2\cos^2{(x)}} + C \end{align*}[/math]As for the second, following Mark's initial suggestion, I would try to use more double angle identities to avoid the power reduction formulae (which I can never remember)...
[math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{\sin^4{(x)}\cos^2{(x)}\,dx} &= \int{\sin^2{(x)}\sin^2{(x)}\cos^2{(x)}\,dx} \\ &= \int{ \sin^2{(x)} \left[ \sin{(x)}\cos{(x)} \right] ^2 \, dx} \\ &= \int{\sin^2{(x)} \left[ \frac{1}{2}\sin{(2x)} \right] ^2 \, dx} \\ &= \frac{1}{4} \int{ \sin^2{(x)} \sin^2{(2x)} \, dx} \\ &= \frac{1}{4} \int{ \frac{1}{2}\left[ 1 - \cos{(2x)} \right] \sin^2{(2x)}\, dx} \\ &= \frac{1}{8} \int{ \sin^2{(2x)} - \cos{(2x)}\sin^2{(2x)} \, dx} \\ &= \frac{1}{8} \int{ \frac{1}{2} \left[ 1 - \cos{(4x)} \right] - \cos{(2x)} \sin^2{(2x)} \, dx} \\ &= \frac{1}{16} \int{ 1\, dx} - \frac{1}{16} \int{ \cos{(4x)}\,dx} - \frac{1}{16} \int{ 2\cos{(2x)} \sin^2{(2x)} \, dx} \\ &= \frac{1}{16}x - \frac{1}{16} \left[ \frac{\sin{(4x)}}{4} \right] - \frac{1}{16} \left[ \frac{\sin^3{(2x)}}{3} \right] + C \\ &= \frac{x}{16} - \frac{\sin{(4x)}}{64} - \frac{\sin^3{(2x)}}{48} + C \end{align*}[/math]
Hello Paul,paulmdrdo said:i understood the first 8 lines of your solution but after that I'm stucked! this is what i do..
∫ sin²x (sin²x cos²x) dx
= ∫ sin²x (sinx cosx)² dx
half-angle identity:
sin²x = (1/2)[1 - cos(2x)]
the double-angle identity:
sin(2x) = 2sinx cosx → sinx cosx = (1/2) sin(2x)
the integral becomes:
∫ (1/2)[1 - cos(2x)] [(1/2) sin(2x)]² dx =
∫ (1/2)[1 - cos(2x)] (1/4) sin²(2x) dx =
pulling out the constants and expanding the integrand,
(1/8) ∫ [sin²(2x) - cos(2x) sin²(2x)] dx =
break it into:
(1/8) ∫ sin²(2x) dx - (1/8) ∫ sin²(2x) cos(2x) dx =
(1/8) ∫ (1/2){1 - cos[2(2x)]} dx - (1/8) ∫ sin²(2x) cos(2x) dx =
(1/16) ∫ dx - (1/16) ∫ cos(4x) dx - (1/8) ∫ sin²(2x) cos(2x) dx = ---> this is where I'm stuck how can the cos4x be sin4x/4? please help me!
MarkFL said:Let's look at:
$$\int\cos(4x)\,dx$$
Now, if we let:
$$u=4x\,\therefore\,du=4\,dx$$
then we have:
$$\frac{1}{4}\int\cos(u)\,du$$
Now, integrate, then back-substitute for $u$, and you have the result.
paulmdrdo said:no i understand that part.. my follow up question is how would i deal with the third term in the integrand ((1/8) ∫ sin²(2x) cos(2x) dx )?
should i use the power reduction formula for sin²(2x) again?
paulmdrdo said:where did you get the sin4x/4 part?
paulmdrdo said:...how can the cos4x be sin4x/4? please help me!
MarkFL said:You asked (twice):So this is what I was addressing. To evaluate:
$$\int\sin^2(2x)\cos(2x)\,dx$$
I would use the substitution:
$$u=\sin(2x)\,\therefore\,du=2\cos(2x)\,dx$$
and so we have:
$$\frac{1}{2}\int u^2\,du$$
Now, integrate, then back-substitute for $u$. :D
Hello Paul,paulmdrdo said:hmmm..correct me if my thougth processes is wrong.
(1/8) ∫ [sin²(2x) - cos(2x) sin²(2x)] dx = in this part of the solution can i use that substitution of u=sin2x? in that way i don't have to use the power reduction formula anymore. please bear with me.
Hello Paul,paulmdrdo said:hmmm..correct me if my thougth processes is wrong.
(1/8) ∫ [sin²(2x) - cos(2x) sin²(2x)] dx = in this part of the solution can i use that substitution of u=sin2x? in that way i don't have to use the power reduction formula anymore. please bear with me.