Intensity, frequency and amplitude

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The discussion centers on the relationship between amplitude, intensity, and frequency of waves, specifically analyzing a scenario where a second wave has double the intensity and double the frequency compared to the first wave. The derived formula, using the relationship I = k a²f², leads to the conclusion that the amplitude of the second wave is a₂ = √8 a₁. However, a discrepancy arises as the answer key states the amplitude should be √2 a₁, prompting further clarification on the frequency's role in the calculations. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the proportional relationships in wave properties.

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Homework Statement



A wave has an amplitude a1, intensity I, and frequency f. A second wave of the same type has twice the intensity and double the frequency, find the amplitude of the second wave in terms of a1.

Homework Equations



Using the relationship I=k a2f2, where k is a constant:

The Attempt at a Solution


\frac{I}{a<sub>1</sub><sup>2</sup>f<sup>2</sup>} = \frac{2I}{a<sub>2</sub><sup>2</sup>(0.5f)<sup>2</sup>}
So a2 = √8 a1


But according to my answer key, the answer is √2 a1
 
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MohammedRady97 said:

Homework Statement



A wave has an amplitude a1, intensity I, and frequency f. A second wave of the same type has twice the intensity and double the frequency, find the amplitude of the second wave in terms of a1.

Homework Equations



Using the relationship I=k a2f2, where k is a constant:

The Attempt at a Solution


\frac{I}{a_1^2 f^2} = \frac{2I}{a_2^2 ( 0.5 f )^2}

So a2 = √8 a1


But according to my answer key, the answer is √2 a1

Well, what did you do with "double the frequency" ?


TeX tips: within [ itex ] ... [ /itex ] a subscript is done using _ and a superscript is done using ^
so [ itex ] a^2_\epsilon [ /itex ] gives ##a^2_\epsilon ##
 
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I'm so sorry! I meant the frequency is halved.
 
BvU said:
Well, what did you do with "double the frequency" ?


TeX tips: within [ itex ] ... [ /itex ] a subscript is done using _ and a superscript is done using ^
so [ itex ] a^2_\epsilon [ /itex ] gives ##a^2_\epsilon ##

I meant to say that the frequency is halved, can you look into it again?
 
Well, if the intensity isn't also halved, I agree with your a2 = √8 a1. Can't find a way to dismiss the relationship you're using. So, I'm puzzled.
 
BvU said:
Well, if the intensity isn't also halved, I agree with your a2 = √8 a1. Can't find a way to dismiss the relationship you're using. So, I'm puzzled.

What I mean to say is, is the relationship between I a and f valid? Or is intensity just proportional to the square of the amplitude?
 
The latter could be quite right. I've seen it come by while googling around. But your orginal formula as well. Is there something in the context that can help you on your way (except for the answer that indeed points to I ##\propto## amplitude2) ? What is the subject of the chapter at hand ?
 
BvU said:
The latter could be quite right. I've seen it come by while googling around. But your orginal formula as well. Is there something in the context that can help you on your way (except for the answer that indeed points to I ##\propto## amplitude2) ? What is the subject of the chapter at hand ?

It is on the basic properties of waves in general, and the question did not specify the type of wave.
 
Well, then the caveat is we've done it for e.g. electromagnetic waves. Sound or springs have I ##\propto \omega^2 ## amplitude2 as you wrote.

Anyone else have an idea here ? I'm at a loss.
 

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