Interesting calculus of variations problems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around seeking interesting problems related to calculus of variations for a classical mechanics class project, specifically looking for alternatives to well-known examples like the brachistochrone and catenary problems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests verifying that the path of a projectile in a uniform gravitational field minimizes the action, proposing to compare it with a family of curves and calculate the action as a function of a parameter.
  • Another participant references a book titled "Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics" as a potential resource for additional problems.
  • A third participant notes that discussions on this topic should occur in the Homework/Coursework forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on specific problems, and multiple suggestions and guidelines are presented without agreement on a singular approach.

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Some assumptions about the nature of the problems and the definitions of action and curves may not be fully articulated, and the discussion does not resolve the appropriateness of the proposed problems.

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Hi, I would like to know if anyone has good ideas for problems involving calculus of variations, other than the classic textbook questions (brachistochrone, Fermat, catenary, etc..) that I could create as a classical mechanics class project? Thank you
 
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Montrealist said:
Hi, I would like to know if anyone has good ideas for problems involving calculus of variations, other than the classic textbook questions (brachistochrone, Fermat, catenary, etc..) that I could create as a classical mechanics class project? Thank you

How about verifying that the path of a projectile in a uniform gravitational field really does minimize the action?

Since we know the path from Newtonian mechanics is a parabola

y = h - ax2 if x is measured from the peak y=h,

it would be interesting to pick a one-parameter family of curves, say

y = h - bnxn

that has the same endpoints. Then calculate the action (the time integral of kinetic minus potential energy) as a function of n and show that it is minimized for n=2.

BBB
 
check the "structure and interpretation of classical mechanics" book (available online)
 
All discussion on such topic must be done in the HW/Coursework forum.

Zz.
 

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