Intergral of sin^3(x)cos(x)+cos(x)

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral ∫sin^3(x)cos(x) dx + ∫cos(x) dx, where the original poster presents two different methods leading to seemingly different results. The subject area is integral calculus, specifically focusing on the properties of indefinite integrals and the implications of constant terms in definite integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster describes two methods of integration, questioning the validity of the results due to a vertical shift in the answers. Participants discuss the significance of the constant of integration (C) and its effect on definite integrals.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants affirming the equivalence of the two methods under definite integration. The original poster expresses some lingering uncertainty and plans to further clarify their understanding.

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There is mention of evaluating the integral from 0 to π, which introduces specific limits that may affect the interpretation of the results. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between indefinite and definite integrals.

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Hi everyone,

I have worked the following integral two different ways and received two different answers.

∫sin^3 xcosx dx+ ∫cosx dx

The first method
= ∫sin^3 xcosx dx+ ∫cosx dx
Let u = sinx
du/dx = cosx
dx = 1/cosx du
= ∫u^3 cosx*(1/cosx) du + ∫cosx dx
= ∫u^3 du + ∫cosx dx
= (1/4) u^4+ sinx+C
= (1/4)sin^4 x+sinx+C

The second method
= ∫sinx(sin^2x)cosx dx + ∫cosxdx
= ∫sinx(1-cos^2x)cosx dx + ∫cosx dx
Let u = cosx
du/dx = -sinx
dx = (-1/sinx) du
= ∫sinx(1-u^2 )u* (-1/sinx) du + ∫cosx dx
= -∫(u-u^3)du+∫cosx dx
= (-1/2)u^2+ (1/4)u^4 + sinx + C
= (-1/2)cos^2x + (1/4)cos^4x + sinx + C

If I graph the two answers they are the same graph, but one is shifted vertically by 1/2. Now as an indefinite integral it seems as if this may only be different values of C. But if this were a definite integral wouldn't we drop the C? Meaning that these two equations are not equal? Have I done something wrong in the second equation?


Thank You, James
 
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mcelgiraffe said:
If I graph the two answers they are the same graph, but one is shifted vertically by 1/2. Now as an indefinite integral it seems as if this may only be different values of C. But if this were a definite integral wouldn't we drop the C?
You're missing a key idea, either about what C represents, or about the relationship between definite integrals and antidifferentiation.

But no matter -- that can be fixed by experimentation! Pick your favorite value for C, and compute the definite integral from 0 to 1. Now pick another value for C, and compute again...

(approximate values are fine!)
 
mcelgiraffe said:
Hi everyone,

I have worked the following integral two different ways and received two different answers.

∫sin^3 xcosx dx+ ∫cosx dx

The first method
= ∫sin^3 xcosx dx+ ∫cosx dx
Let u = sinx
du/dx = cosx
dx = 1/cosx du
= ∫u^3 cosx*(1/cosx) du + ∫cosx dx
= ∫u^3 du + ∫cosx dx
= (1/4) u^4+ sinx+C
= (1/4)sin^4 x+sinx+C

The second method
= ∫sinx(sin^2x)cosx dx + ∫cosxdx
= ∫sinx(1-cos^2x)cosx dx + ∫cosx dx
Let u = cosx
du/dx = -sinx
dx = (-1/sinx) du
= ∫sinx(1-u^2 )u* (-1/sinx) du + ∫cosx dx
= -∫(u-u^3)du+∫cosx dx
= (-1/2)u^2+ (1/4)u^4 + sinx + C
= (-1/2)cos^2x + (1/4)cos^4x + sinx + C

If I graph the two answers they are the same graph, but one is shifted vertically by 1/2. Now as an indefinite integral it seems as if this may only be different values of C. But if this were a definite integral wouldn't we drop the C? Meaning that these two equations are not equal? Have I done something wrong in the second equation?


Thank You, James


They are indeed equivalent. If you would have a definite integral, the final result would also be the same because the shift between the two expressions would cancel out. You can check with some numbers and see that it works out.
 
Thank You both for your response. My instructor told me the same thing but I had not accepted it yet. I did work it out both ways from 0 to pi and got the same answers. There is still something that I am uneasy about. I will spend some more time with it and see if I can get my question more organized. Thanks again!
 

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