Internal Forces Diagram: how to do this one?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analysis of internal forces in structural problems, specifically regarding how to create internal forces diagrams for given figures. Participants are exploring the methodology for determining internal forces at joints and the necessity of drawing shear and moment diagrams in relation to different directions and sections of the structures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the absence of an imaginary cut in a specific region (BD) when drawing internal forces diagrams, questioning the approach taken by their professor.
  • Another participant suggests that after finding reactions, one should determine internal forces and moments at the joints and then draw shear and moment diagrams to analyze internal forces between the joints.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether multiple diagrams are needed for different directions (x and y) when plotting internal forces, indicating uncertainty about the requirements for drawing diagrams for both directions.
  • In response, another participant confirms that multiple diagrams will be necessary for different sections, particularly for sections ABC and BD, and suggests that even more diagrams may be needed for figure 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit some agreement on the need to analyze internal forces and moments at joints and the use of shear and moment diagrams. However, there is disagreement and confusion regarding the specific requirements for drawing diagrams in different directions and sections, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully clarified the assumptions regarding the necessity of diagrams for different directions or the specific methodology for handling internal forces in the context of the figures provided.

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I'm wondering how should I do analysis on those problems below:
Figure 1:
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Figure 2:
structure2.jpg

I mean, my professor, while doing an example very similar to Figure 2, he didn't do an imaginary cut in the region BD to find internal forces there, and the internal forces diagram that he drew only contained internal forces in sections AB and BC. I'm confused by it. When drawing internal forces diagrams, how should I handle those kinds of problems?
 
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After finding reactions, you should determine the internal forces and moments in all members at the joints. Then you can draw shear and moment diagrams to determine the internal forces and moments in between the joints.
 
PhanthomJay said:
After finding reactions, you should determine the internal forces and moments in all members at the joints. Then you can draw shear and moment diagrams to determine the internal forces and moments in between the joints.
Okay, so let's consider figure 2. When I draw shear and moment diagrams, I plot internal forces in function of x - where x is the distance related to the origin, let's say, point A. But the structure has joints in other directions - y direction, for instance. So, in this case, I have to draw six diagrams? Three for normal, shear and moment internal forces in the x structure, and another 3 for the joint in the y direction?
I'm confused.
 
Yes , if asked to do so, you'll need them for ABC and BD. Even more in figure 1.
 

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