Internship rejections, what next?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by students who have been rejected from summer internships and are seeking advice on alternative opportunities for gaining work experience. Participants explore options such as contacting professors for internships or volunteer positions, engaging in volunteer activities, and considering non-academic pursuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest contacting professors personally for internship or volunteer opportunities, noting that it may be late in the year but could still be worthwhile.
  • Others recommend focusing on local volunteer activities, such as working with shelters or community programs, as a way to gain experience and contribute positively, even if it doesn't directly relate to career goals.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of revisiting and potentially improving the resume after experiencing multiple rejections, suggesting that students should consider applying to different departments or looking for opportunities within their home institution.
  • Another participant questions whether the need for paid positions is a barrier and suggests that many faculty members may be open to utilizing students for unpaid research assistance if they demonstrate good academic performance and relevant skills.
  • Some participants express a sense of solidarity, sharing their own experiences of rejection and discussing alternative activities, such as blogging or working on math problem sets, as ways to stay productive over the summer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of seeking alternative opportunities, whether through direct outreach to professors or engaging in volunteer work. However, there is no consensus on the best approach or the necessity of paid positions, as some participants emphasize the value of unpaid experiences while others highlight the challenges faced by international students.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific feedback from institutions regarding rejections, the varying labor situations within research groups, and the potential need for students to broaden their search beyond their major departments.

Who May Find This Useful

Students facing internship rejections, particularly those in STEM fields, as well as international students seeking guidance on summer opportunities and work experience.

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Recently I have been rejected by nearly every institution/university I applied to, this summer.

I do have a previous experience "summer internship" from last year. Also, I don't think I am that much bad to be rejected by that much handful of institutions.

Anyway, I am not complaining. I am still determinant that I must take work experience this summer. But its too late for summer applications right now.Is is okay if I contacted professors personally asking for internship or volunteer!? What is your advice?
 
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Phylosopher said:
Is is okay if I contacted professors personally asking for internship or volunteer!? What is your advice?
It might be a little late in the year for this, but it won't hurt to ask around. Start with your own professors and tell them what you've said here - that you've applied around, but haven't found a position yet and ask if they know of anyone looking to hire a student for the summer. It's a lot harder contacting professors from outside your institution. They generally won't have the same obligation to help you out, particularly if they have students from their own institution competing for the positions they have, but it (taking on external students) has been known to happen.

If you can't get anything academic this summer, don't worry too much about it. There's no rule that keeps students out of good graduate programs because they didn't spend every summer monkeying away in a lab. Change gears and orient yourself towards something else that will either help you develop some non-academic skills, or try to figure out how to get the best paying job that you can.
 
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Sorry to hear you had such bad luck. Did you get any feedback from the rejections?

@Choppy had a good suggestion. One other possibility is to spend the summer in some volunteer activity. Homeless shelters, animal shelters, food banks, youth outreach programs, are all chronically understaffed. If you have a church, find out about service opportunities through it. Otherwise look at opportunities through local government, habitat for humanity, Salvation Army, etc.

It may not directly benefit your career at all, but life is so much more than a career.
 
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Phylosopher said:
Recently I have been rejected by nearly every institution/university I applied to, this summer.

I do have a previous experience "summer internship" from last year. Also, I don't think I am that much bad to be rejected by that much handful of institutions.

Anyway, I am not complaining. I am still determinant that I must take work experience this summer. But its too late for summer applications right now.

Is is okay if I contacted professors personally asking for internship or volunteer!? What is your advice?

Every research group has a varying labor situation. I tend to recommend that students knock on a lot of doors at their home institution and get established in a group there as a higher priority than seeking shorter term research opportunities elsewhere. I'd keep working that angle.

I'd also recommend revisiting your resume after a string of rejections. Were you aiming too high, or do you need to improve your resume? Most students are understandably vague in public discussion forums about their resume, but advisers usually need to see the real details to offer tangible suggestions for improvement. If you PM your resume to me, I am happy to offer constructive and private feedback that may improve your odds in the future.

Depending on your institution and resume, you might also consider broadening your search beyond your major department. Often a physics major can find productive and interesting projects in a different science or engineering department. Do you know where these student job ads get posted at your uni? Looking at your resume and discussing your experience and interests, I can also use my google-fu and develop a short list of faculty in other departments that may be a good match for you.

It is not uncommon for faculty to have students bail on them for the summer to chase a more attractive opportunity or to simply still be looking for the right student with a specific interest or skill set. Your task is to find that faculty member at your uni.
 
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Dale said:
Sorry to hear you had such bad luck. Did you get any feedback from the rejections?

@Choppy had a good suggestion. One other possibility is to spend the summer in some volunteer activity. Homeless shelters, animal shelters, food banks, youth outreach programs, are all chronically understaffed. If you have a church, find out about service opportunities through it. Otherwise look at opportunities through local government, habitat for humanity, Salvation Army, etc.

It may not directly benefit your career at all, but life is so much more than a career.
No I didn't get any. Just the usual rejection letters i.e "Thank you for applying, we couldn't offer you a place ....... we had about 500 applicants for only 20 places and it was very competitive", just the usual.
 
I am on the same boat with you, to make it worse I am an international student studying in US without any plans in the summer... Maybe I will spend my time doing math problem set and blogging... As there are not much to do for somebody who want to study pure math...
 
Not sure what the problem is. Do you need to get paid, or do you just need opportunities to do research?

It should not be that hard to find faculty at your home institution who can make use of free labor if you have a good GPA, work ethic, and some programming skills.

You may not yet have the skills for pure math, but there is an awful lot of applied math you can do en route to becoming a pure mathematician.

Lots of free data available on the web these days. Why not download some and analyze it from different angles? Find a mentor to brainstorm possibilities with. Or just blog or flip burgers. Your choice. Free country (I hope).
 
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