Intersection Form With Coeffs. in Z/2

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The discussion revolves around the intersection form with coefficients in Z/2, particularly in relation to Wu's vector and its implications for (4n+2)-manifolds. Participants explore the properties of the intersection form, including its symmetry and antisymmetry, as well as its behavior in the context of orientable and unorientable manifolds.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the intersection form in dimension 4n+2 is antisymmetric, based on the properties of the cup product and evaluation on the fundamental class.
  • There is a suggestion that the intersection form can be viewed as a Z-valued bilinear form on homology classes, with the intersection counting the number of intersection points of submanifolds.
  • One participant speculates that working mod 2 may only reveal the parity of the number of intersection points.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of unorientable half-dimension manifolds and their representation in homology classes, with some participants questioning whether they can be counted in the intersection product.
  • A later reply clarifies that orientable representatives should be considered for the intersection form, emphasizing the importance of orientation in the context of counting intersection points.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the intersection form, particularly regarding its symmetry properties and the treatment of unorientable manifolds. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on these issues.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the intersection form's behavior may depend on the orientation of manifolds and the specific dimensions involved, leading to nuanced considerations that are not fully settled.

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Hi, Everyone:

Just wondering if anyone knew about how to work with the intersection form with
coefficients in Z/2. I only know this is in relation to Wu's vector, tho I don't know
what Wu's vector is.

I was also hoping to know if the intersection form for (4n+2)-manifolds is also symmetric,
i.e., as in the case for 4n-manifolds; just wonder if there is a (-1)<sup>n+1</sup> or something
that may change signs.

Thanks for any Comments, Refs.
 
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I believe the intersection form in dimension 4n+2 is is antisymetric .

Because the intersection form is the bilinear form on H^{2n+1}(M) given by taking the cup product followed by evaluation on the fundamental class µ: (a,b) --> <a u b, µ>. And cup product is commutative in the graded sense: a u b = (-1)^|a||b| b u a = (-1)^(2n+1)² b u a = -b u a.

Also, from what I understand (may be wrong), by Poincaré duality, the intersection form of an compact n-manifold M can also be seen as a Z-valued bilinear form on H_{n/2}(M) (homology this time). Given two homology classes [L1], [L2], it is possible to find a representant L1, L2 of those classes such that L1 and L2 are dimension n/2 submanifolds of M which intersect transversally, and hence in finite number of points since M is compact. The intersection form then counts this number of intersection points. I'm guessing that working mod 2, the intersection only tells you about the parity of the number of intersection points.
 
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quasar987 said:
I believe the intersection form in dimension 4n+2 is is antisymetric .

Because the intersection form is the bilinear form on H^{2n+1}(M) given by taking the cup product followed by evaluation on the fundamental class µ: (a,b) --> <a u b, µ>. And cup product is commutative in the graded sense: a u b = (-1)^|a||b| b u a = (-1)^(2n+1)² b u a = -b u a.

Also, from what I understand (may be wrong), by Poincaré duality, the intersection form of an compact n-manifold M can also be seen as a Z-valued bilinear form on H_{n/2}(M) (homology this time). Given two homology classes [L1], [L2], it is possible to find a representant L1, L2 of those classes such that L1 and L2 are dimension n/2 submanifolds of M which intersect transversally, and hence in finite number of points since M is compact. The intersection form then counts this number of intersection points. I'm guessing that working mod 2, the intersection only tells you about the parity of the number of intersection points.

This seems correct. I guess over Z/2 you can define the intersection form for unorientable manifolds.

But I have a question. If the manifold is orientable there still may be non-orientable half dimension manifolds. Over Z I guess these do not represent homology classes so they are not a problem?
 
I don't understand the nature of your question. What is the problem that you see regarding unorientable dimension n\2 submanifolds?
 
quasar987 said:
I don't understand the nature of your question. What is the problem that you see regarding unorientable dimension n\2 submanifolds?

well they have intersection just like anything else but they can only be counted mod2. So if they represented homology classes something would be wrong. Sorry I guess I answered my own question. they are not homology classes and do not enter into the intersection product.
 
Oh I see. So in post #2, I should have said

"Given two homology classes [L1], [L2], it is possible to find orientable representatives L1, L2 of those classes such that L1 and L2 are dimension n/2 submanifolds of M which intersect transversally, and hence in finite number of points since M is compact. The intersection form then counts this (signed) number of intersection points. I'm guessing that working mod 2, the intersection only tells you about the parity of the number of intersection points. "
 

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