The discussion revolves around finding the intersection point of a 45-degree line and an ellipse in the upper right quadrant. The ellipse is defined by its semi-major axis (a=1) and semi-minor axis (b=0.6), and the line is drawn from the point (1, 0.6). Participants explore the equations of both the ellipse and the line to determine their intersection coordinates.
Participants generally agree on the approach to finding the intersection point, but there is some disagreement regarding the specific forms of the equations derived for the ellipse and the line. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact intersection coordinates.
Some participants express uncertainty about their mathematical abilities and the steps involved in solving the quadratic equation. There are also mentions of formatting equations for clarity, indicating a need for careful attention to mathematical notation.
This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in geometry, specifically the intersection of lines and conic sections, as well as those looking to refresh their understanding of quadratic equations and their applications.
Do you know how to find the equation of the ellipse? Since you know the major and minor semiaxes (a = 1, b = .6) it's a simple matter write the ellipse's equation.jjredfish said:If you are looking at the upper right quadrant of an ellipse centered at (0,0), with a=1 and b=.6, and there is a 45 degree line drawn from (1,.6), how would I find the (x,y) coordinate where the line crosses the ellipse? (I have been out of school for a long time, this is not homework).
Mark44 said:Do you know how to find the equation of the ellipse? Since you know the major and minor semiaxes (a = 1, b = .6) it's a simple matter write the ellipse's equation.
The line has a slope of 1, and goes through the point (1, .6), so it should be fairly easy to write the line's equation.
Once you have equations for the ellipse and the line, solve the system of two equations for the point of intersection.
Your line equation looks OK, but not your equation for the ellipse.jjredfish said:Hi Mark44, thanks for your reply.
Unfortunately, my math is extremely rusty/non-existent. With someone else's help, I have gotten to y=x-.4, and 1.36x^2-.8x-.2=0 but I don't know how to turn those into (x,y) that I can graph.
Mark44 said:Your line equation looks OK, but not your equation for the ellipse.
For an ellipse whose center is at (0, 0), with vertices at (a, 0) and (0, b), the equation is
$$ \frac{x^2}{a^2} + \frac{y^2}{b^2} = 1$$
I don't know how you got 1.36x^2-.8x-.2=0.
BTW, put some spaces in your equations to make them easier to read, like so:
1.36x^2 - .8x -.2 = 0
jjredfish said:He went from: x2 + ((x2 − 0.8x + 0.4^2) / 0.6^2) = 1.
To: (1 + 0.6^2) x^2 − 0.8x − (0.6^2 − 0.4^2) = 0.
And from that, I got: 1.36x^2 - .8x - .2 = 0
Mark44 said:The ellipse equation is .36x2 + y2 = .36
The line equation is y = x - .4
Replace y in the first equation with x - .4, and you'll get an equation that is equivalent to the first one you show above.
This gives you a quadratic equation, which can be solved by the use of the Quadratic Formula.
Mark44 said:Quadratic formula: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_formula
Your quadratic equation is 1.36x2 - .8x - .2 = 0. In the quadratic formula, a = 1.36, b = -.8, and c = -.2. You should get two values for x - one positive and one negative. Since you're looking at the intersection of the line and ellipse in the first quadrant, you want the positive x value.
Substitute the value you find in the equation of your line to get the y value. That (x, y) point will be on both the ellipse and the line.