Undergrad Invariance of a tensor of order 2

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The discussion centers on the invariance of a tensor of order 2 during coordinate transformations. Participants clarify that while the components of the tensor change with the basis, the tensor itself remains invariant as a geometric object. Specifically, a tensor of order 2 can be expressed as a tensor product of two vectors (order 1 tensors), which also maintain their geometric properties under coordinate changes. The conversation emphasizes the distinction between the invariance of the tensor and the variability of its components.

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In a tensor of order 1 (a vector) its magnitude, direction and sense must remain invariant given a change in coordinates; but in a tensor of order 2, I don't know what remains invariant.
Good morning friends of the Forum. For me it is difficult to geometrically imagine a tensor of order 2 and maybe that is why it is difficult for me to know, what remains invariant when making a change of coordinates of this tensor. The only thing I can think of it, is that since a tensor of order 2 is a tensor product of two vectors (Tensors of order 1), these two vectors remain invariant when changing coordinates and multiplying them tensorly. This I think is implicit in the definition of the order 2 tensor but I am not sure that these assertions I am making are correct. If you can clarify these doubts for me, I would appreciate it, friends of the Forum.
 
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Good morning friends of the Forum.
Good evening!

Thytanium said:
For me it is difficult to geometrically imagine a tensor of order 2 and maybe that is why it is difficult for me to know, what remains invariant when making a change of coordinates of this tensor.
A tensor (including a vector) is a geometrical object. It is invariant by itself, what changes are the tensor components relative to whatever basis you choose to use.

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The only thing I can think of it, is that since a tensor of order 2 is a tensor product of two vectors (Tensors of order 1), these two vectors remain invariant when changing coordinates and multiplying them tensorly.
More generally, a general tensor of order 2 is a linear combination of such products.
 
Thanks you friend Orodruin. Thanhs you very much.
 

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