Invariant Lagrangian Homework: Find Solutions

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The discussion centers on finding systems with potential and kinetic energies that yield a Lagrangian invariant under the transformation X: R² → R². The participant references Classical Mechanics by Taylor and connects the problem to Noether's Theorem, which states that invariance in the Lagrangian leads to conserved quantities. A specific recommendation is made to consult section 3.2 of "Classical Dynamics: A Contemporary Approach" by Jorge Jose and Eugene Saletan, particularly page 120, which addresses Lagrangian transformations directly.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lagrangian mechanics
  • Familiarity with Noether's Theorem
  • Basic knowledge of classical mechanics
  • Ability to interpret mathematical transformations in R²
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  • Study the Lagrangian formulation of mechanics in detail
  • Read section 3.2 of "Classical Dynamics: A Contemporary Approach" by Jorge Jose and Eugene Saletan
  • Explore the implications of Noether's Theorem in various physical systems
  • Investigate examples of Lagrangians that exhibit invariance under specific transformations
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Homework Statement


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the question is in the image exactly as i wrote it down in class. but it's basically asking what systems have potential and kinetic energies that form a Lagrangian which is invariant to some transformation X:R^2-->R^2.

Homework Equations



The Lagrangian is the only equation I can think of that would be relevant to this. the equation from class is in the image above.

The Attempt at a Solution


in my attempts to find an answer to this I have read a bit of Classical Mechanics by Taylor and have many other books near by that I can refer to. but I am not sure what I am looking for in the index and have yet to find a reasonable answer.
I am also guessing it is somehow related to Neother's Theorem since her theorem tells you that there is a conserved quantity when the Lagrangian is invariant to changes in the coordinates of the system. but as i said I can't put my finger on it.


recommended readings will be appreciated. this is not HW it's a challenge question by the prof. and I am just looking for an answer since the question is intriguing.
 
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You are right that your problem is related to Noether's theorem. But of more use to you than my suspicions, will be section 3.2 of Classical Dynamics, A Contemporary Approach by Jorge Jose and Eugene Saletan. Hopefully you can locate a copy because page 120 deals explicity with how a Lagrangian transforms. By the way, if you're a physics major and if you can afford that book, it's very good.
 
on the way to the library to find that book... anyone else have suggestions or leads that l can fallow?
thanks
 

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