Inverse Laplace with given limits

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The problem involves finding the inverse Laplace transform of a given function F(s) = (2s + 3) / (s(s² + 7s + 10)) and determining the values of the function f(t) at t = 0 and t = ∞.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the inverse Laplace transform and the evaluation of f(t) at specific limits. There are attempts to clarify the notation and expressions used in the problem. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the calculations and the interpretation of the limits.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the expressions for F(s) and f(t). Some participants suggest checking calculations and using limit theorems, while others express uncertainty about the necessity of these theorems based on their coursework. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the use of decimal versus rational expressions in the context of Laplace transforms. Participants also note the absence of certain topics in the original poster's coursework, which may affect their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


Problem reads: find inverse Laplace transform of f(t) of F(s)=(2s+3)/(s(s2+7s+10) What is the value of the function f(t) at t=0 and t=∞?

Homework Equations


Inverse laplace transform

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved F(t) down to F(t)= [itex].3/s[/itex]+[itex]0.166/s+2[/itex]-[itex]0.465/s+5[/itex]

thus lead me to the inverse of f(t)=0.3 +0.1666e2t-0.465e5t

Correct me on the math if i am wrong or whether i am on the wrong track up to this point. So, I’m guessing that I put 1 in for t which would be f(1)=-67.486 and for f(∞) I’m getting it as "undef" can someone shed light as to whether I’m on the right track?
 
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I think you should expect decaying exponentials, so check the signs on those puppies. Also, you mentioned both t=0 and t=1, did you do what you meant to do?
 
caliboy said:
I solved F(t) down to F(t)= [itex].3/s[/itex]+[itex]0.166/s+2[/itex]-[itex]0.465/s+5[/itex]
That should be F(s). Use parentheses. What you wrote means
$$F(s) = \frac{0.3}{s}+\frac{0.166}{s} +2+\frac{0.465}{s}+5$$
 
I apologize I have been using the "latex reference" but am still getting use to it. WhatI meant to say was that F(s)=[itex]0.3/\left(s\right)[/itex]+[itex]0.166/\left(s+2\right)[/itex] -[itex]0.465/\left(s+5\right)[/itex]. Now looking at this am I correct in assuming that when the problem asks for f(t) at t=0 and t=∞. So, @t=0 f(0)=-66.1498 and f(∞)=undefined??
 
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Did you check your work like algebrat suggested? You should get a finite answer for t=∞. Your answer for f(0) doesn't look correct either.
 
Yeah I have been working Laplace transforms for a while now and am still making stupid mistakes. I think I caught it: f(t)=0.3+0.166e-2t-0.465e-5t; thus f(0)=0.01 and f(∞)=0.3
 
It might have been intended for you to use the Laplace transform limit theorems. They say that
\begin{align*}
\lim_{t \to 0^+} f(t) &= \lim_{s \to \infty} sF(s) \\
\lim_{t \to \infty} f(t) &= \lim_{s \to 0} sF(s)
\end{align*} Try those and see if you get the same answers.

(Or maybe not, now that I've reread the original post.)
 
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Im would not think I would have to use the limit theorem, mainly because it has not been in the course work I have been studying. I will look into it though and thank you very much for your help.
 
caliboy said:

Homework Statement


Problem reads: find inverse Laplace transform of f(t) of F(s)=(2s+3)/(s(s2+7s+10) What is the value of the function f(t) at t=0 and t=∞?


Homework Equations


Inverse laplace transform


The Attempt at a Solution


I solved F(t) down to F(t)= [itex].3/s[/itex]+[itex]0.166/s+2[/itex]-[itex]0.465/s+5[/itex]

thus lead me to the inverse of f(t)=0.3 +0.1666e2t-0.465e5t

Correct me on the math if i am wrong or whether i am on the wrong track up to this point. So, I’m guessing that I put 1 in for t which would be f(1)=-67.486 and for f(∞) I’m getting it as "undef" can someone shed light as to whether I’m on the right track?

You should get out of the bad habit of extreme roundoff, which you have performed above. Your F(s) is NOT
[tex]\frac{0.3}{s} +\frac{0.166}{s+2} - \frac{0.465}{s+5}.[/tex] It is
[tex]F(s) = \frac{3}{10 s} + \frac{1}{6(s+2)} - \frac{7}{15(s+5)}<br /> \doteq \frac{0.3}{s} + \frac{0.1666667}{s+2} - \frac{0.4666667}{s+5}.[/tex] In fact, there is no reason at all to convert to decimal numbers; using rationals is just as easy.

RGV
 

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