Invertibility of the product of matrices

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The discussion revolves around the invertibility of the product of two matrices, specifically when one matrix is invertible and the other is not. The original poster presents a scenario with matrices A and B, where A is invertible and B is not, and questions the implications for the product AB.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of matrix B being non-invertible and question the reasoning behind the original poster's conclusion that AB could be invertible. There is a focus on understanding the properties of invertibility and the definitions involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on examining the properties of non-invertible matrices and suggesting a focus on the implications of B's non-invertibility. There is an exploration of the relationship between the invertibility of AB and the individual matrices A and B.

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Participants are encouraged to consider the definitions and properties of determinants in relation to matrix invertibility, as well as the constraints of the problem setup regarding the matrices involved.

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Homework Statement


Let A and B be n by n matrices such that A is invertible and B is not invertible.
Then, AB is not invertible.

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The Attempt at a Solution



We know that A is invertible, so there exists a matrix C such that CA = I. Then we can right -multiply by B so that CAB = IB = I. Then by the associative property C(AB) = I. By the same argument, we can show that there is a C such that (AB)C = I. So AB has an inverse.

Obviously this is wrong, because in order for AB to have an inverse, both A and B must have an inverse. So what am I doing wrong?
 
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CAB=IB but you can't conclude IB=I, IB=B
 
Maybe you should concentrate on the non invertible part. What does it mean to B, not being invertible? Is there a positive property, i.e. without the use of non, not or no?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:

Homework Statement


Let A and B be n by n matrices such that A is invertible and B is not invertible.
Then, AB is not invertible.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



We know that A is invertible, so there exists a matrix C such that CA = I. Then we can right -multiply by B so that CAB = IB = I. Then by the associative property C(AB) = I. By the same argument, we can show that there is a C such that (AB)C = I. So AB has an inverse.

Obviously this is wrong, because in order for AB to have an inverse, both A and B must have an inverse. So what am I doing wrong?

What tools/results are you allowed to use? Do you know about determinants? Do you know how determinants relate to the invertability/non-invertability of a matrix?
 
Assume that ##AB## is invertible. This means that there is a ##C## such that ##CAB = I## and ##ABC = I##. Can you prove now that ##B## is invertible? (and thus deriving a contradiction).
 

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