Invertibilility of AB given that B is not invertible

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The discussion revolves around the invertibility of the product of two matrices, specifically AB, where A is invertible and B is not. Participants explore the implications of B's non-invertibility on the product AB and also consider the case of BA.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the invertibility of matrices A and B and the product AB, questioning whether this can be shown without determinants. They also consider the implications of B's non-trivial kernel on the invertibility of both AB and BA.

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The discussion is active, with participants examining the reasoning behind the non-invertibility of AB and BA. Some guidance has been offered regarding the kernel of B and its effect on the products, but no consensus has been reached on alternative methods to demonstrate these properties.

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Participants are working under the assumption that A is invertible while B is not, and they are exploring the consequences of these conditions on the products of the matrices.

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Homework Statement


Let A and B be n by n matrices such that A is invertible and B is not invertible. Then, AB is not invertible.

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It is easy to show using determinants: det(AB) = det(A)det(B)= 0, so AB is not invertible if either A or B are not invertible.

Is there an easy way to show this without the use of determinants? I'm just curious
 
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If B is not invertible, it has a non-trivial kernel. Take a vector from it and apply AB.
 
fresh_42 said:
If B is not invertible, it has a non-trivial kernel. Take a vector from it and apply AB.
I see. So then AB has a non-trivial kernel, which means that AB is not invertible.

What about if we wanted to show that BA is not invertible, given that B is not invertible?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
I see. So then AB has a non-trivial kernel, which means that AB is not invertible.

What about if we wanted to show that BA is not invertible, given that B is not invertible?
The same. Since A is invertible, we can find a y to an element x of B's kernel, such that x=Ay. Now Bx=0=BAy and y is in the kernel of BA.
 
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fresh_42 said:
The same. Since A is invertible, we can find a y to an element x of B's kernel, such that x=Ay. Now Bx=0=BAy and y is in the kernel of BA.
Ah! Makes perfect sense. Thanks
 

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