Is a Masters in HSA Necessary for an Upper Level Job in the Field?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of a Master's degree in Health Services Administration (HSA) for securing upper-level positions in the field. Participants explore the educational pathways and experiences that may influence career advancement in healthcare administration, considering the implications of obtaining a Bachelor's degree versus a Master's degree.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the requirement of a Master's degree for upper-level positions in HSA, questioning if a Bachelor's degree would suffice.
  • Another participant shares that many senior health administration roles are typically filled by individuals who have worked their way up from clinical positions, such as nurses or doctors, often requiring years of experience.
  • It is noted that while a Bachelor's degree may qualify someone for entry-level positions in healthcare administration, specific roles, like nurse manager, require relevant clinical experience.
  • Concerns are raised about the misconception that obtaining a degree guarantees a job at an executive level, emphasizing the importance of practical experience alongside theoretical education.
  • Some participants highlight the value of internships as part of the educational program, suggesting that they may provide necessary practical experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that while a Bachelor's degree in HSA may lead to entry-level positions, significant experience is often required for advancement. However, there is no consensus on the necessity of a Master's degree for upper-level roles, as opinions vary on the pathways to such positions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the relationship between educational qualifications and job readiness, as well as the role of internships in gaining practical experience. The discussion reflects differing views on the expectations of employers regarding educational credentials and work experience.

Danielle Sarah
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I am currently on the path to receive my AA in General Studies by the Spring of 2016. From there, I will transfer to University and intend to acquire a BS in Information Technology. I previously wanted to major in Psychology but realize I do not want to enroll in another 6 years to complete graduate school and the job market is not very promising according to professors and other colleagues I have interacted with. I took a programming class this semester and failed, while I aced every other course I was enrolled in pertaining to IT. To find out, the IT degree program also requires you to complete multiple upper level programming courses and Physics (something I am TERRIBLE AT). So I was looking into other BS programs at the University I plan on attending and came across HSA (Health Services Administration). While my intention was to assist others initially in Psychology, HSA will provide me with the ability to lead a work environment and work in a prestigious medical facility. But IT usually requires a Bachelors Degree and you are set along with other certifications to acquire a prominent position, while I am not sure is HSA requires a Masters Degree to be able to be eligible to work at an upper level position/facility. I also figured HSA requires less upper level math courses and mostly management/accounting/HR courses, something I assume I will be strong at, along with an internship at the end of the Bachelors Program. So my question is: DO YOU NEED A MASTERS IN HEALTH SERVICES ADMINISTRATION TO BE ENTITLED TO AN UPPER LEVEL POSITION OR WILL A BACHELORS DEGREE BE ENOUGH?
 
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In my experience the people that get into senior health administration positions are those that work up to it through the ranks - so to speak. Often they are nurses or doctors with several years of experience. Some of them will go back to school for an MBA or some other kind of administration training. Some just learn on the job. In some cases people are promoted into administrative positions because they not effective in the clinic and administration is reluctant to terminate them for whatever reason.

I'm sure you can get into the field by doing some kind of HSA degree, but in most cases from what I've seen these are not entry-level positions.
 
Choppy said:
In my experience the people that get into senior health administration positions are those that work up to it through the ranks - so to speak. Often they are nurses or doctors with several years of experience. Some of them will go back to school for an MBA or some other kind of administration training. Some just learn on the job. In some cases people are promoted into administrative positions because they not effective in the clinic and administration is reluctant to terminate them for whatever reason.

I'm sure you can get into the field by doing some kind of HSA degree, but in most cases from what I've seen these are not entry-level positions.
Okay so let me get this straight, getting a Bachelors in this field will be considered entering an entry level position?
 
Danielle Sarah said:
Okay so let me get this straight, getting a Bachelors in this field will be considered entering an entry level position?

No. A bachelor's degree is getting an education related to the field. Once you have that you might be qualified for an entry-level position in healthcare administration, but I'm not sure what that would entail. They won't make you a nurse manager unless you have nursing experience. You might be able to apply for facility manager-type positions though, but even then they tend to hire management from within the organization already.
 
Choppy said:
No. A bachelor's degree is getting an education related to the field. Once you have that you might be qualified for an entry-level position in healthcare administration, but I'm not sure what that would entail. They won't make you a nurse manager unless you have nursing experience. You might be able to apply for facility manager-type positions though, but even then they tend to hire management from within the organization already.
Luckily that's why this program consists of an internship once the BS is acquired.
 
There is a pernicious train of thought that goes along the lines of "If I just go to school for the right degree, I'll be entitled to a job in this field."

I wish it could be true. I really do. But it is actually a sick joke. I still see people saying things like "If I go to school and study xxx field, can I then go and get work doing xxx at an executive level? And the answer to that is congratulations, you might get your foot in the door, but that's it. You still need experience and orientation, some of which can take many years.

Schools are great for teaching theory. They can not teach practice, however. The only way to get experience is to go out and actually DO something.
 
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JakeBrodskyPE said:
There is a pernicious train of thought that goes along the lines of "If I just go to school for the right degree, I'll be entitled to a job in this field."

I wish it could be true. I really do. But it is actually a sick joke. I still see people saying things like "If I go to school and study xxx field, can I then go and get work doing xxx at an executive level? And the answer to that is congratulations, you might get your foot in the door, but that's it. You still need experience and orientation, some of which can take many years.

Schools are great for teaching theory. They can not teach practice, however. The only way to get experience is to go out and actually DO something.
Exactly! That is what many students want. They do want an education and an understanding of their subject, but they also want to know what things to do with it, as from on-the-job, in-the-field, real world practical experience, and training. Maybe internships are not promoted enough.
 

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