Is a Webcam Better than a DSLR for Astrophotography?

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The discussion revolves around the comparative effectiveness of webcams versus DSLRs for astrophotography, particularly in capturing images of planets like Jupiter. Participants explore various technical aspects, including sensor size, pixel density, and the impact of different optical configurations on image quality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that webcams can produce better images of planets due to their smaller pixel size and ability to capture many frames quickly, which can be processed to reduce noise.
  • Others argue that while DSLRs have larger sensors and higher megapixel counts, the effective resolution may be lower when capturing planetary images due to the size of the pixels and the optical setup.
  • A few participants mention the importance of using the correct Barlow lens to optimize image scale and brightness, noting that fewer pixels can lead to a brighter image.
  • There are discussions about the limitations of DSLRs in terms of video compression and frame rates, which may affect the quality of stacked images.
  • Some participants question whether the optics used with DSLRs are adequately matched to the sensor size, suggesting that appropriate lenses could improve performance.
  • One participant highlights the potential advantages of specialized astrophotography webcams over standard DSLRs, particularly in terms of image compatibility and processing capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the superiority of webcams versus DSLRs for astrophotography, with no consensus reached. While some favor webcams for their pixel density and processing advantages, others defend the capabilities of DSLRs, particularly with proper optics.

Contextual Notes

Participants note various assumptions about sensor sizes, pixel densities, and optical configurations, which may influence the outcomes of their discussions. There are also mentions of unresolved technical details regarding video formats and processing methods.

Who May Find This Useful

Astronomy enthusiasts, astrophotographers, and individuals interested in the technical aspects of imaging celestial objects may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
digitaldave said:
About the 2 image sensors, webcam vs DSLR.

The telescope generates a full image format roughly the same size of the webcam, filling the entire surface of the chip with light. The DSLR sensor cannot be filled with the image the telescope creates because its sensor is too big.
There are plenty of people who use DSLRs at prime focus for astrophotography with little or no vignetting. How a Barlow changes the light cone I'm not entirely sure, but it should widen the cone unless the internal structure of the barlow cuts part of it off.
 
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  • #32
sophiecentaur said:
I would love to have a good telescope - even if only to sit there and admire / stroke it. But it is in a queue, after a new marine diesel engine and a few other expensive bits of kit.
[shrug] Sounds like a problem of improperly conceived priorities to me.

Still, a local star party through an astronomy club or college would at least allow you to see what all the hubbub is about.
 
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  • #33
sophiecentaur said:
I have a feeling that this effectively boils down to 'f number', used all the time in photography. For a bigger sensor area, you need a bigger aperture for the same field of view and the same 'exposure' if the sensor elements have the same sensitivity / noise performance. Obviously, the purpose designed astro cams will have been optimised for sensor area, compatibility with available apertures and focal lengths and there is a huge advantage in not having colour filters there when you don't actually want them. Also, they are incredibly neat little things that fit on the telescope very comportably.

Actually the F ratio only really affects the exposure time. Big sensors are generally used equally as well on fast and slow scopes. However vignetting can become a major issue in some types of scopes when you use large sensors. Field of view is completely dependent on focal length, not aperture.
 

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