Is Angular Momentum or Latus Rectum Affected by Thruster-Induced Speed Increase?

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The problem involves a shuttle in a circular orbit around a planet that fires thrusters, increasing its speed at a specific point in the orbit. The original poster is tasked with analyzing the angular momentum, gravitational force, centripetal acceleration, and radius of curvature at that point, as well as comparing the latus rectum of the new elliptical orbit to that of the original circular orbit.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster describes their calculations for angular momentum and centripetal acceleration, noting an increase in angular momentum due to the velocity change. They express confusion regarding the relationship between angular momentum and latus rectum, as well as the implications of the thruster's effect on the orbit's geometry.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in clarifying the concepts of centripetal acceleration and the relationship between angular momentum and latus rectum. Some participants question the original poster's assumptions about the directionality of forces and the orientation of the elliptical orbit's axes. There is an ongoing exploration of these concepts without a clear consensus yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a hint from their professor regarding the position of point P along the semi-major axis of the new orbit, which raises questions about the expected geometry of the orbit after the thruster's activation.

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Homework Statement



There is a shuttle following a circular orbit around a planet. At some point P in the orbit, the shuttle fires thrusters causing the speed at that point to increase. I am supposed to a) find the angular momentum, gravitational force at the point P, centripetal acceleration at the point P, and the radius of curvature at point P. Part B is to say whether the latus rectum of my new orbit is smaller, larger, or equal to that of the circular orbit.

Homework Equations



I used L=R x P, a=v^2/r, and F=Gmm/r^2.

The Attempt at a Solution



I didn't have much problem with part A. The velocity perpendicular to the radius changed, so the cross product for L increased, making L larger. The gravitational force stayed the same at the point, since that only depended on the radius. The centripetal acceleration increased, since v increased, while r remained the same. And lastly, the radius of curvature at the point didn't change, because the radius didn't change instantaneously.

My problem is that, it is known that L, the angular momentum, is directly proportional to the latus rectum, c. But for the ellipse just made, the latus rectum is smaller than that for the circle. Thus my new L should be SMALLER than my first L for the circular orbit. But the velocity increase tells me something different! In other words, when analyzing two different aspects of this orbit, I get both an increase and a decrease in angular momentum, depending on whether I look at the velocity or the latus rectum. What am I missing here?

EDIT: Also, my professor gives a hint that this point P will lie along the semi-major axis of the newly elliptical orbit. But he has drawn the point at a 3' o clock location on the circular orbit. If the thrusters went off here, I would expect the point to lie along the semi-minor axis because the shuttle should move further now in this direction than it has previously! Perhaps this is just a typo?
 
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Lucretius said:
The centripetal acceleration increased, since v increased, while r remained the same.
No, centripental acceleration does not change, because the force of gravity does not change.
 
Major axis/minor axis are determined based on the orientation of the
elliptical orbit, so they are not necessarily alligned to your coordinate sistem.
 
You have the "particle" moving in a circle so that its instantaneous velocity is tangential to the circle and it experiences a centripetal acceleration towards the center of the circle (due to gravity).

I might be mistaken, but it doesn't seem like you have considered the directionality of the thruster's acceleration compared to that of the centripetal force correctly in your logic - but I apologize if I'm wrong in this interpretation!
 

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