Is biodegradable thin film the future of packaging?

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The discussion centers around the potential of biodegradable thin films for packaging, particularly in comparison to traditional polyethylene and other materials. Participants explore the types of polymers used in biodegradable films and the socio-political implications of bioplastics versus recycled plastics.

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  • One participant is researching biodegradable thin films and seeks information on the types of polymers used in this field.
  • Another participant recalls that biodegradable films are often made from vegetable matter, contrasting them with polyethylene.
  • A correction was made regarding the earlier statement about biodegradable films, reaffirming that they are derived from vegetable matter.
  • There is a question posed about the preference for bioplastics over recycled plastics in Europe, suggesting a debate on environmental impacts.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about socio-political issues in Europe, noting that their perspective is influenced by their Canadian context, which differs significantly.
  • This participant argues that using existing plastics for recycling may be preferable to creating new biodegradable materials, citing cost and infrastructure considerations.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of making traditional plastics biodegradable, with a humorous remark about the organic nature of plastics derived from fossil fuels.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the advantages of biodegradable films versus recycled plastics, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions regarding environmental impacts and practical considerations.

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Limitations include a lack of specific references or detailed knowledge about the chemistry involved in biodegradable plastics, as well as varying socio-political contexts that may influence opinions on the topic.

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This discussion may be of interest to those involved in materials science, environmental policy, packaging industries, and anyone researching sustainable alternatives to traditional plastics.

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I'm working for the Company that specialize in thin film polyethylene. I research the tendency of using biodegradable thin film for packaging, Anyone that have knowledge or information about this such as report of the kinds of polymer used in that field. Please give me a help.
thanks a lot
 
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I can't cite a reference, because I'm working from a very old and dim memory. As opposed to polyethylene, the only thin film "plastic" wrap that I've ever seen described was actually made out of vegetable matter.
 
Oops! It's too late to edit my last post, so I have to correct it here. I meant to say that the only biodegradable film that I knew of was made of vegetable matter. :redface:
 
vegetable-based plastics

In your opinion, in Europe, the tendency of using bioplastic from bio-based plastic is preferable than recycle plastic that includes convention plastic?
 
I'm afraid that I don't know enough about the subject to even have an opinion, especially about socio-political issues in Europe. (I'm a Canuck, so our situation is a lot different than yours. Our super-low population density is only one factor in that.)
All that I can offer is what I would think if you were on this side of the pond. If you are using plastic that is already in existence, rather than creating new stuff with the intention of recycling it in future operations, I consider that preferable to using vegetable-based material. At least it gets the stuff out of the landfills. If you don't use it, then maybe nobody else will either and it will just continue to accumulate. It will also be much cheaper if you already have the infrastructure in place; I assume that using biomatter would require a whole new processing system.
The only reason that I mentioned plants at all was because I know nothing about chemistry and can't figure out how you would make "traditional" plastic biodegradable. I guess that it's technically "organic" since it's made out of dead dinosaurs, but I have yet to see a Pepsi bottle disintegrate spontaneously.
 

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