Is Every Square-Free Integer a Product of Distinct Primes?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of square-free integers in the context of number theory. Participants are exploring the relationship between square-free integers and their prime factorization, specifically whether every square-free integer can be expressed as a product of distinct primes.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic (FTA) and consider proof by contradiction as a method to demonstrate the relationship between square-free integers and their prime factorization. Questions arise regarding the appropriate use of quantifiers in mathematical statements, particularly in relation to the definition of square-free integers.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and clarifying concepts. Some have suggested approaches to proving the relationship between square-free integers and distinct primes, while others are working through the details of their reasoning and notation. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify certain mathematical symbols and concepts.

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Participants are grappling with the formal definitions and implications of square-free integers, including the use of quantifiers in their proofs. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by the notation and the importance of understanding the underlying concepts before formalizing their arguments.

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Homework Statement



An integer is called a square-free if it is not divisible by the square of any integer greater than 1: Show that:

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a is square free if and only if a = (+/-)P1*P2*P3*Pr where Pr are distinct primes.

The Attempt at a Solution



So,

a is in Z for all b in Z such that b^2 does not divide a and b>1 if and only if a=(+/-)P1P2P3***Pr where Pr are distinct primes



Hello, I'm taking a number theory class and the basic proofs are kicking my butt. I understand the concepts but it is very difficult for me to actually prove. For example, my solution I have to state the problem in mathematical equivalents. I don't know if I should make b in Z using the FOR ALL(backwards a) or there exists(mirrored E) for the equation. I want to play with the FTA but I don't know how I can incorporate the a|b into the solution. If and only if means I must go both ways and I'm at a loss. I can see why a must be a product of distinct primes because if p^r and r>=2 then it would be divisible by the square which would not make it square free.
 
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I want to play with the FTA

Ok, so the FTA says that we can factor a into primes. You want to show that a can be factored into distinct primes. It sounds like it's ripe for proof by contradiction: what if the prime factorization does not have distinct primes?
 
By the FTA you know a=(+/-)p1^n1*p2^n2*...pr^(nr) and that that factorization is unique. As you said, if anyone of the ni>=2 then a is divisible by pi^2. So a is NOT square free. That proves IF a is square free THEN all of the ni=1. It's really a proof by contradiction. Now you have to prove the other direction. If all of the ni=1, then a is square free. Hint: pick a b^2 that divides a, and p to be a prime factor of b. Do it by contradiction again.
 
Office_Shredder said:
Ok, so the FTA says that we can factor a into primes. You want to show that a can be factored into distinct primes. It sounds like it's ripe for proof by contradiction: what if the prime factorization does not have distinct primes?

I was actually just playing with that. My professor keeps telling me that I just need to work slowly, I'm seeing it now. I get stuck on the little details and that completely throws me of for example:

How would you describe the integer that is squared. Should I use ∀ or ∃ for variable b in relation to a? When do you use those two? I would think I use ∀ since b^2 cannot divide a. Which would, at least to me, mean that any value of b. But, I might be wrong.

Alright, thanks for the tips. I'm going to continue playing with it.I think I got it! Thanks guys! I'll clear up some questions tomorrow with professor but you guys helped a lot!
 
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I don't really understand. You seem to be hung up on these symbols. Just say what you want to say in words, and then worry about making it look good later
 
Office_Shredder said:
I don't really understand. You seem to be hung up on these symbols. Just say what you want to say in words, and then worry about making it look good later

You are very correct. I was caught up in writing what the problem stated rather than just reading it as it is.

I was trying to define two variables. But the way you guys explained it, I see now that I can just use the FTA to define 'a' and then imply that if 'a' is square free then all the exponents of the prime factorization of 'a' must be equal to one. So, then I supposed that some of the exponents where >= 2. Which means that a would be P^2 * P2...with P being distinct and whatnot. Which would mean 'a' can be divided by "p^2" which would make it NOT a square free number.
 

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