Is Fusion Considered a Chemical Reaction in Stars?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around whether fusion in stars can be classified as a chemical reaction, exploring the definitions and distinctions between chemical and nuclear reactions. Participants seek clarification on the nature of these processes, particularly in the context of stellar fusion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that fusion is not a chemical reaction but a nuclear reaction, highlighting that chemical reactions do not involve changes to atomic nuclei.
  • It is noted that chemical reactions occur at lower temperatures compared to the extremely high temperatures required for fusion.
  • One participant emphasizes that chemical reactions involve electrons, while nuclear reactions involve protons and neutrons within the atomic nucleus.
  • Another participant defines chemical reactions as processes that combine substances to form new substances with different properties, contrasting this with nuclear reactions that involve nuclei colliding to form new atomic nuclei.
  • Participants mention that nuclear fusion transforms hydrogen into helium, while nuclear fission involves the splitting of heavier nuclei.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that fusion is a nuclear reaction and not a chemical reaction, but there is some variation in the details and definitions provided. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of what constitutes a chemical reaction versus a nuclear reaction.

Contextual Notes

Some definitions and distinctions between chemical and nuclear reactions remain unresolved, particularly regarding the implications of Dalton's law in the context of fusion.

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im reading a chemistry text and its says in daltons law chemicals can not change into atoms during a chemical reaction.but if fusion is a chemical reaction then this is wrong beacuse in stars for example hydrogen combine with hydrogen to form helium .i guest i need a little clarification of what a chemical reaction is.
 
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Fusion is not a chemical reaction. It is a nuclear reaction. In chemical reactions nuclei don't change. Chemical reactions take place in low temperatures (up to several thousands K), while fusion requires temperatures many orders of magnitude higher (billions of K).
 
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i guest i need a little clarification of what a chemical reaction is

chemical reactions involve electrons
whilst
nuclear reactions involve particles inside the atomic nucleus - protons and neutrons
 
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pinochet said:
im reading a chemistry text and its says in daltons law chemicals can not change into atoms during a chemical reaction.but if fusion is a chemical reaction then this is wrong beacuse in stars for example hydrogen combine with hydrogen to form helium .i guest i need a little clarification of what a chemical reaction is.
I think not. Chemical reaction involves two substances that are chemically combined to form a brand new substance which is different from its original properties while nuclear reaction involves two nuclei colliding with each other at high speed to form a new type of atomic nucleus. (Am I correct?) Just like the Sun, hydrogen fuses with hydrogen to form helium via nuclear fusion.
 
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Nuclear reactions involve changes to atomic nucleii, transforming the atom into that of a different element.
Nucleii combining to form heavier elements is fusion.
Then there also is fission where a heavier element's nucleus breaks up.
Commonly a helium nucleus splits off from the heavy nucleus and the remainder becomes a lighter element, which may then undergo still further decay.

Chemical reactions do not involve nucleii, the elements remain the same but they are recombined in different ways.
 
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thank you guys i get it now .
 

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