Is heat's velocity constant like light's?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of heat and its relationship to electromagnetic radiation, particularly whether heat travels at the speed of light. Participants explore the definitions of heat, the mechanisms of heat transfer (conduction, convection, and radiation), and the implications of these definitions in the context of thermodynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that heat is a form of electromagnetic radiation and travels at the speed of light in a vacuum.
  • Others argue that heat is distinct from electromagnetic radiation, emphasizing that heat refers to the energy contained in matter due to molecular motion.
  • There is a distinction made between heat radiation and the internal energy of an object, with some claiming that only radiation travels at the speed of light.
  • Some participants propose that heat transfer can occur through conduction and convection, which do not involve radiation and therefore do not travel at the speed of light.
  • Concerns are raised about the definitions of heat and energy, with suggestions that the terminology used in thermodynamics requires careful consideration to avoid confusion.
  • A participant mentions that all forms of energy transfer, including infrared radiation, can lead to temperature changes, but this does not equate to heat in the traditional sense.
  • Some participants express reservations about the definitions and relationships discussed, indicating a lack of consensus on the terminology and concepts involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions of heat and its relationship to electromagnetic radiation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of heat, its transfer mechanisms, and the implications of these definitions in thermodynamics.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of precise definitions in thermodynamics, noting that different forms of energy transfer may not be universally understood or accepted. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of heat and energy, which may depend on specific contexts or definitions.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in thermodynamics, the nature of heat, and the mechanisms of energy transfer may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
dirtyd33 said:
But this is what I am supposing, is that because absorbed infrared increases the same internal energy that is being increased via conduction that the two are roughly equivalent; that the increased internal energy of the particle is due to addition of photon masses, whether absorbed from radiation or conducted from direct contact of "macro" bodies. Zz, please don't get on my case about "overly speculative posts," I'm trying to conduct research and further my own understanding.

You are conducting {no pun intended} your own research by making unverified claims. Where did you do your research to allow you to deduce everything you wrote in this post? Throughout this thread, you've provided not a single valid reference to support your claim.

This thread started with a question. But somehow, when provided with the answers, you are trying to dispute those by providing your own answers. It appears that you've already made up your mind what the answer should be. So I have serious doubts that this has anything to do with conducting research, but I do think it is your means of furthering your own misunderstanding.

Zz.
 

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