Is HHO Resonance a Real Discovery or a Scientific Hoax?

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The discussion centers around the concept of "HHO resonance" in the context of an electrolysis apparatus designed to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen. Participants explore the design, functionality, and potential applications of the generator, as well as the validity of the claims surrounding HHO resonance and its implications for energy efficiency and automotive use.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a new electrolysis design using large plates and expresses uncertainty about the effects of modifications made to the apparatus.
  • Another participant questions whether the setup is merely an electrolysis apparatus and asks for the objective of the experiment.
  • Concerns are raised about the use of the term "resonance," with one participant suggesting it lacks meaning in this context and challenges the validity of the claims regarding output measurements.
  • Some participants mention that others have attempted to achieve HHO resonance using various methods, including pulse width modulation and Tesla coils, suggesting a belief that resonance could enhance efficiency.
  • One participant expresses a desire to create an efficient system capable of powering a vehicle, indicating a lack of measurement of output versus input energy at this stage.
  • Another participant asserts that the energy gained from burning hydrogen and oxygen is less than the electrical energy invested in the electrolysis process.
  • A strong counterpoint is presented, stating that HHO and resonance electrolysis are hoaxes, warning against the use of such systems in vehicles and emphasizing that established science contradicts these claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some supporting the exploration of HHO resonance and others firmly rejecting its validity. There is no consensus on the effectiveness or scientific basis of the claims made regarding HHO resonance and its applications.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided measurements or empirical data to support their claims about the efficiency of the electrolysis apparatus or the concept of HHO resonance. The discussion reflects a mix of speculative ideas and established scientific skepticism.

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I have made a new design i haven't seen anywhere on youtube or elsewhere. it might be a freak accident that i found hho resonance but I may have found it. I have build a generator with only 2 plates which yes I've seen that on youtube before but that's when people are just experimenting with it to see how it will work and its 2 tiny plates. I have 2 plates that are 2 feet by 2 feet bolted together with i believe a .064 gap don't remember for sure but its close to that. I have posted a video on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/reddevil2576 Now i made some changes to it before i made this video because I was going to seal it up and hook a pump up to it so i can force the bubbles out and keep the surface area up as much as I can. But I think I cut to much off of the washers on the outside increasing the surface area way to much. There almost a half circle now just enough of the hole left so the nylon bolts would hold them in place. Before I did that though when i hooked it up to the same battery in the video it hummed like a transformer on a telephone pole but no longer does that probably because of me changing the surface area so much I will post a video once I fix that though and see if I can show you guys the humming. Still makes a little noise but it ain't no hum like a transformer on a telephone pole when they hum. I think its impossible to wire plates in series in water and the equations I've seen they would have to be wired in series so I tried to solve that by using 2 big plates. It wouldn't be wired in series underwater it be connected everywhere wouldn't be series or parallel either I don't know what you would call it. Anyways take a look and let me know what you think. I'm not trying to get rich I'm trying to stick it to the man...lol... youtube is about to go down for a bit I'm waiting for the video to upload now so if you read this right after I post it you might be able to check out the video but not for long. and this was the first video I put up didn't know it has to go through some process before you could see it so I don't know how long you will have to wait.
 
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I don't want to watch the U-Tube video. Is this just an electrolysis apparatus? You are separating H20 into hydrogen and oxygen using electrical bias and current? What is the objective of your experiment?
 
Resonance? The word has no meaning in the context in which you have used it. It is just technobabble.

In any case, have you actually measured the output hydrogen/oxygen generation of your electrolysis cell and compared it to the input power? If you haven't then you have nothing at all with which to base your belief that you've done anything interesting or useful.

People have been doing electrolysis for generations and it is a very well understood process. Youtube isn't an authority on what is or isn't done or does or doesn't work. Basically, you're just comparing yourself against yourself. Have you perused the patent database or commercially available products to see what real designs are out there?
 
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Well yes it is an electrolysis apparatus. Everyone always talks about trying to find hho resonance though with there generators they put pulse with modulators in there and all kinds of stuff there even hooking tesla coils up to them now adays. From my understanding resonance will give it maximum output for its size. When its resonating I've been told it will vibrate and you will get a hum from those vibrations. Mine does that very thing before i made the modification to it but I'm soon going to put it back to what it was. I'm trying to make a effecient one which from what I've read about it you need to find hho resonance to do so that I can produce enough hho to run a car on it. I'm talking any car for my test I'm using a big block ford I'm building that's got a big cam in it so it sucks a lot of gas. I don't think this one will be big enough for that but i will be able to compare the surface area and power I'm pulling to make my own formula to build a big enough one. which to answer your question no i haven't measured it yet. I want to change the world with this idea. I'm not trying to make money I'm just showing people the right way to what there trying to do.
 
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Well yes it is an electrolysis apparatus. Everyone always talks about trying to find hho resonance though with there generators they put pulse with modulators in there and all kinds of stuff there even hooking tesla coils up to them now adays. From my understanding resonance will give it maximum output for its size. When its resonating I've been told it will vibrate and you will get a hum from those vibrations. Mine does that very thing before i made the modification to it but I'm soon going to put it back to what it was. I'm trying to make a effecient one which from what I've read about it you need to find hho resonance to do so that I can produce enough hho to run a car on it. I'm talking any car for my test I'm using a big block ford I'm building that's got a big cam in it so it sucks a lot of gas. I don't think this one will be big enough for that but i will be able to compare the surface area and power I'm pulling to make my own formula to build a big enough one. which to answer your question no i haven't measured it yet. I want to change the world with this idea. I'm not trying to make money I'm just showing people the right way to what there trying to do.

The energy you get from burning the hydrogen and oxygen in your Ford is less than the electrical energy you invested in the electrolysis separation. You do understand that, right?
 
Reddevil,

There is no such thing as HHO. There is no such thing as resonance electrolysis of HHO. There is no such thing as over-unity energy from resonance HHO generation. It's all a hoax and, I'm sad to say, somebody has fooled you. Don't be disheartened; it's happened to a lot of people. The scam is very sophisticated.

Please don't put one of these on your car. It is roughly the equivalent of pouring several cc of sulfuric acid into the engine, drilling a couple of random holes in the throttle body, smashing the lambda sensor with a hammer and inviting the state police to write you a huge ticket for tampering with pollution controls.

The science and the engineering are very well known. All honest, knowledgeable people agree these don't work. There is just enough of a grain of truth in there to make it plausible - if you're running natural gas in your car, a little hydrogen helps, though probably not at today's prices.
 

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