Is It Plausible for Table Surface Area Uncertainty to Be Nearly 70 cm²?

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The discussion revolves around the plausibility of a calculated uncertainty in the surface area of a table, given specific dimensions and their associated uncertainties. Participants explore the implications of these uncertainties in both theoretical and practical contexts.

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  • One participant presents a calculation of the surface area and its uncertainty, questioning whether an uncertainty of nearly 70 cm² is plausible.
  • Another participant suggests that an error in width could reasonably lead to a significant change in surface area, supporting the initial uncertainty value.
  • A third participant challenges the interpretation of the ± error, noting that in engineering, it typically indicates actual limits rather than a statistical distribution, which may affect the calculation of uncertainty.
  • This participant also points out that the larger error range corresponds to the smaller dimension, which may influence the overall uncertainty calculation.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of uncertainty and its implications for the surface area calculation. There is no consensus on whether the calculated uncertainty is appropriate or how it should be interpreted.

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The discussion highlights potential limitations in the assumptions made regarding error representation and distribution, as well as the implications of using different methods to calculate uncertainty.

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Another question I have concerns a table's surface area.
If L=122.14±0.14[cm] and W=24.30±0.57[cm], I got that S=2968.00±69.70[〖cm〗^2], using ∆S=√((∂S/∂L)^2 〖∆L〗^2+(∂S/∂W)^2 〖∆W〗^2 ).
Would you kindly confirm this result? Is it plausible that ∆S would be nearly 70 cm^2??
 
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I do notice that if W had an error of 0.5 cm, then the error in the surface area would be around 0.5 cm * L = (0.5 cm)(122 cm) = 61 cm ^2 which is certainly close to 70 cm^2.

Others will surely have more insightful input!

[Edit. Just to be clear, though my argument is basically just half of the calculation you did, I'm trying to point out it seems pretty reasonable to me! A small error on the width times a long length can produce a sizable change in surface area.]
 
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What exactly do you mean by a ± error? In engineering terms, this usually means the actual limits of error and does not imply any particular distribution beyond that fact. In that model, the range for the area is min length * min width to max length * max width.
Your sum-of-squares approach effectively interprets the ± in the source data as meaning some (unstated) number of standard deviations.
In the numbers you quote, it happens that the (much) larger error range goes with the smaller dimension. As a result, your sum-of-squares calculation produces pretty much the same answer as above; the combination of width * error in length makes hardly any contribution.
If the ± in the source data represents hard limits but for the area you're more interested in standard deviation, you'll need to make some assumption about the source distributions.
 
Thank you very much for your replies!
 

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