Is It Possible to Charge an iPod Using a Windmill on a Car?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of charging an iPod using a windmill attached to a car. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of generating electricity from a windmill, converting AC to DC, and the challenges associated with such a setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of using a windmill to charge an iPod, questioning whether AC current can charge a battery or if it must be DC.
  • Another participant suggests that an AC to DC converter is necessary, expressing uncertainty about the availability of such converters at low power levels and highlighting the need for a constant frequency of voltage.
  • A third participant mentions common alternatives, such as using an adapter that plugs into the car's cigarette lighter or USB port, questioning the motivation behind the windmill idea.
  • Further inquiries are made about the voltage output from the windmill and the possibility of regulating the varying current generated while driving.
  • One participant notes that generating DC current directly with a small motor and a light propeller could be feasible, but emphasizes the importance of knowing the voltage output.
  • Another participant shares personal experiences with cars having cigarette lighter sockets and suggests that adding one is a simple solution, while also cautioning about the energy efficiency of using a windmill due to wind resistance.
  • It is mentioned that a charging circuit could be simple with a voltage regulator, but concerns are raised about the potential risk of damaging the iPod.
  • A participant explains that an AC to DC converter can be made with diodes and acknowledges the complexity and cost of using a windmill for this purpose.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with some supporting the windmill idea and others suggesting more conventional methods. There is no consensus on the practicality or efficiency of using a windmill for charging an iPod.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about voltage output, the efficiency of energy generation, and the practicality of maintaining a stable current, which remain unresolved.

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I'm a high school physics student, so keep my limited knowledge in mind. Basically the other day I had the idea to create a charger for my iPod that's powered by a windmill, which I could attach to the outside of my car. I've never actually built a windmill before, but I'm pretty confident I can get one working. What I don't know, however, is whether I can charge my battery with the AC current the windmill will produce. Can you charge a battery with AC, or does it have to be DC? I'm sure there's also other potential problems that I haven't thought of, but I thought it was a cool idea so I decided to look into it. Is something like this even possible?
 
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You would need an AC to DC converter first. I do not know if they make them at the small AC power levels you will be generated. You are going to need (12V DC at 1A according to the apple website). One problem I can think of is maintaining a constant frequency of the voltage going into the AC-DC converter. For example, if you drive real fast you will probably get greater than 60hz of electricity, but if you travel, say at 20 mph, you may only achieve 20hz.

I am not an electrical engineer so I can't give you 100% full-proof advice.
 
Most people just get an adapter that plugs into the cigarette lighter.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002HH9AQ4/?tag=pfamazon01-20

If your car doesn't have a lighter, you can get an adapter for the USB port.

Or do you just want an excuse to put a windmill on your car?
 
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Without knowing exactly what voltage I'm going to generate yet, do they make AC/DC converters that would potentially work? And yeah, I wondered about the varying current too. Is there something l could buy to somehow regulate that?

And no, my car's a 93 so it doesn't have cigarette lighters. Otherwise that would have been my first solution lol
 
My car's a 97 and I got a lighter.
 
You can't answer your question without addressing the issue of voltage output. You may be able to generate DC current directly using a small hobby shop motor (with very little internal friction and magnetic resistance) and a very light propeller. You will not get many rpms unless you use a pinwheel like configuration.
 
I have had cars from 1963 to 2006 and they have all had cigarette lighter sockets.
It is fairly easy to add, they are sold in auto parts stores.

You should connect the cigarette lighter (12v socket) to the fusebox or if you connect directly to the battery use an inline fuse of 5 or 10 amps (or less) so you do not cause problems.



If you are generating power with a windmill when driving your car, the energy produced will be far less than the extra gas used because of wind resistance and losses. You might also have trouble attaching it securely so it will stay attached at highway speeds. using the car's electrical system and a ready made car charge cord is a better choice IMO.

I think the charging circuit is fairly simple with a voltage regulator and probably a capacitor or battery to smooth the power. but I would not trust it to charge a valuable thing like an ipod without damaging it.
 
an ac to dc converter is just a rectifier which can be 4 diodes arranged in a diamond shape for a full wave rectifier. You can also buy a rectifier which does it for you with 4 legs. While I do not think using a windmill on your car is an especially easy or inexpensive way to charge your ipod, it is good that you are thinking about it and learning about circuits and electricity
 

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