nabki said:
if it was a joke, it was lame and non-constructive. i don't think such a provocative joke should have been posted in this thread, at that time. that is why your argument is weak, since you resorted to telling lame jokes and did not answer the previous posts.
Again, I wasnt talking to you and it wasnt provocative. Get a life. I was talking to him, not you. What you just said above is nothing more than a bunch of bullsh!t to hear yourself talk.
yes it does. and we have freedom of press, just watch al-jazeera, al-arabiya, al-manar or any of the multitude of TV channels available to the arab world. but the arab press has restraint, and it has respect. the arab press does not attack religious icons and respects other peoples beliefs.
All religious icons are mocked in western papers. Its called freedom of press.
the fact that you keep on deliberately misunderstanding my words is comical. please define radical imams. and if you think qardawi is radical then i don't know any religious leader in the world who isint.
When did I ever mention the name qardawi? I don't even know who he is, and I don't care who he is.
for your information, UNICEF (i think) put the UK in the worst 10 countries for a child to be raised in- partly because of the high teen pregnancy rate.i will try to find a link to the report and your statement is general, extreme and nonsense, since you keep twisting the meaning of my words. please stop doing it, it is very provocative and annoying.
Wow, a high teen pregnancy rate...seriously. I hope you have better data than 'high teen pregnancy rate'. Stop posting crap, and I won't call you out on it.
You do realize, you crying 'proof' every time does not make you sound credible. You said you lived in the UK for 12 years, you should know this from first hand experience. I live in the west, I don't have to 'prove' this to you. Gimme a break.
anyone heard about that Austrian man who raped his daughter and kept her in his cellar?
Yeah, so what about it? Are you now going to make a generalization from that one extreme example? Thats not an argument. That was highly illegal, and the man will go to jail. Unlike the middle east where its legal to discriminate against women.
I can't get to youtube, my connection is dial up, so please get me a reliable source that is not youtube based.
Thats not my problem.
I am not saying that ME societies are perfect, but they aren't as bad and as intolerant as they seem (lets keep Saudi and Iran out of the picture). and neither are western societies the utopias cyrus thinks they are. but that does not mean they don't have some things that are better than in ME societies.
Compared to the ME, the west
is a utopia.
Sorry to be so nasty, but I really am getting sick and tired of muslim people thinking the have some special knowledge on moral authority over others. They do it all the time, and I can't stand it.