Is light faster in vacuum than it does in water?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the speed of light in different media, specifically comparing its speed in a vacuum to its speed in water. Participants explore concepts related to light propagation, refraction, and the implications of light's behavior in various materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that light is slower in water than in a vacuum, citing interactions with atoms and molecules as the reason for this reduction in speed.
  • Others argue that light always travels at the speed of light (c) and that the apparent slowing in media is due to absorption and re-emission processes.
  • One participant mentions Snell's Law as a method to measure the speed of light in water, linking the refractive index to the speed of light in different media.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between the speed of light as a wave and the speed of photons, with some suggesting that photons travel at c while light's effective speed can appear slower in media.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity of explanations regarding light's behavior in solids and the implications for theories such as relativity.
  • Some participants express confusion over the concepts being discussed, indicating a need for further clarification on the nature of light and its interactions with different materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the interpretation of light's speed in different media. While some maintain that light is slower in water, others contend that the speed of light remains constant at c, with the observed differences being due to interactions with the medium.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of speed in different contexts (e.g., phase velocity vs. group velocity) and the implications of quantum mechanics on classical interpretations of light propagation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals studying optics, physics students seeking clarification on light behavior, and those curious about the foundational concepts of light in various media.

  • #31
Correct me if I am wrong but light always travels at the same speed, it just takes longer to travel through a body of water because it is not traveling along a straight path as it would in a vac...
 
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  • #32
Joza said:
I've only got high school physics at the moment, so bare with me.


I'm confused? If you timed 2 beams of light traveling the same distance, yet one was in a vacuum, the other say something very dense, like a diamond. Which would reach the end first? The one in the denser medium is slower than in the vacuum yes? Or does time slow down somewhere :D ??

the beam through the denser medium arrives later. Using a laser beam this is effect observed as an interference pattern which occurs if the beams are recombined. The term to research would be OPTICAL PATH LENGTH.
 
  • #33
Does that mean that the speed of light is NOT a constant?

Yet as I understand it is, always being 3 by 10^8 ms^-1.

Anyone care to explain this?
 
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I am not happy with this ancient thread being resurected, then getting replys by people who obviouly have not read it.

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