Is ln(E(x^n)) equal to E(ln(x^n))

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The discussion centers on whether ln(E(x^n)) is equal to E(ln(x^n)) for a continuous variable x where x is non-negative. It clarifies that E refers to expectation, not the exponential function. The consensus is that the equality does not hold, as E(g(x)) is generally not equal to g(E(x)), due to the properties of integrals. Additionally, Jensen's inequality is mentioned, noting that for a convex function g, g(E(X)) is less than or equal to E(g(X)). The conversation emphasizes the complexities of expectations and integrals in mathematical analysis.
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is ln(E(x^n)) equal to E(ln(x^n)), if x is a continuous variable and x>=0?

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This would more appropriately have been placed in the Calculus and Beyond homework help section, even if it isn't homework it is of that nature and level. General Math is more suited for general discussion of mathematical ideas.

Anyway, what is E? Is it the exponential function? How are the exponential function and natural logarithm related.
 


Sorry. E is the expectation
 


Oh ok. In that case, no it's not true. In fact, in general E(g(x)) is not equal to g(E(x)) which is due to the definition of E(x) as an integral with x as the integrand. This makes it inherently difficult for these nice properties to occur, as integrals don't have "nice" properties past linearity. So while E(aX+bY) = aE(X) + bE(Y), E(X^n) is not anything nice in terms of E(x).
 


thanks. if g is a concave function, can i say g(E(x))>=E(g(x)) ? (jensen's inequality)
 


It's the other way around, g(E(X)) is LESS or equal to E(g(X)), if g is convex (not concave).
 
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