Is Loughborough University Really as Wild as the Photos and Videos Suggest?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the cultural differences and social dynamics at Loughborough University in the UK, particularly concerning student lifestyles that include partying, drinking, and socializing. Participants explore the implications of these differences for a prospective student from Egypt considering transferring to the university.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about fitting into the social environment at Loughborough University, feeling that their conservative background may clash with the perceived liberal culture of UK students.
  • Another participant shares their experience of adapting to university life, suggesting that exposure to diverse social behaviors is common and can be navigated successfully.
  • A UK resident notes that while alcohol and clubbing are prevalent in student life, it does not diminish academic capability, as many successful students engage in these activities.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of cultural differences and suggest that the prospective student should be open to experiencing a new culture while recognizing that not all students engage in partying.
  • Concerns about alienation due to personal appearance and lifestyle choices are raised, with some participants reassuring the original poster that they would likely find peers with similar values and interests.
  • There is a discussion about the diversity of student experiences, with some participants asserting that not everyone at university drinks or parties excessively, and that many students maintain a balanced lifestyle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that cultural differences exist and that not all students at Loughborough University engage in the same social activities. However, there is no consensus on how these differences will impact the original poster's experience, as some express confidence in finding a suitable social group while others remain concerned about potential alienation.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that cultural expectations vary significantly between countries, and the original poster's concerns about fitting in are influenced by their background and personal experiences. The discussion highlights the complexity of adapting to a new social environment without resolving the uncertainties surrounding personal acceptance and integration.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective international students considering studying in the UK, particularly those from conservative backgrounds, may find this discussion relevant as it addresses cultural adaptation and social dynamics in university settings.

  • #31
Believe it or not not all students are drunkards, some are even teetotal. And universities have a myriad of societies that don't revolve around getting drunk. Unless you're a bit of a wallflower I'm sure you'll find people there with similar interests. Although University is supposed to be a time of study it's also a time to let your hair down, formal education is long gone so some people go a bit well OTT.
 
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  • #32
JasonRox said:
I'm from Canada, and if I go to a different province in my country my tuition can double! That's staying within my own country. Education is funded provincially, so it makes complete sense.

Well, that's only true if you're from Quebec and you go outside the province for your education. I'd guess that 90% of undergraduate programs in Canada have tuition fees that are within 800 CA$ of the national mean tuition.
 
  • #33
I find this thread rather funny considering that I don't smoke, do drugs, and I've never had a drop of alcohol in my life -- well, maybe besides Nyquil.

I go to University, though, here the states (which is even more prone to parties), in an engineering field, and find there are a lot of people who don't drink.

Also, here in the states, at least, people who are anti-smoking are often considered Liberals.

How things have changed. :)
 
  • #34
this is the good world that I hope to live in. But guys charging 12,500 sterling which is 600% or more than what the regular students pay, is kinda rip off.
 
  • #35
I paid about about £3000 a year for my fees. so its not much more. Quite often your own government will cover part of the cost of tuition. I know of a few overseas students who had all their fees paid. Might be worth looking to see if your government has something similar.
 
  • #36
I can afford the cost but I think its a bit too much, is 60% in the UK considered a good grade? ~B?
 
  • #37
AhmedEzz said:
this is the good world that I hope to live in. But guys charging 12,500 sterling which is 600% or more than what the regular students pay, is kinda rip off.
You're comparing things that are not comparable. The £3000 or so that home students pay is not "full fees" since, like I said, the government gives the university money. If the government were not funding the education then it would be a lot more expensive for everyone!

AhmedEzz said:
I can afford the cost but I think its a bit too much, is 60% in the UK considered a good grade? ~B?
60% is a borderline 2:1 degree, which is considered to be good, yes. Anything about 70% is a first class degree, which is the best that one can obtain.
 
  • #38
oedipa maas said:
Well, that's only true if you're from Quebec and you go outside the province for your education. I'd guess that 90% of undergraduate programs in Canada have tuition fees that are within 800 CA$ of the national mean tuition.

Check again man.

You got it wrong.
 
  • #39
AhmedEzz said:
this is the good world that I hope to live in. But guys charging 12,500 sterling which is 600% or more than what the regular students pay, is kinda rip off.

Ignorance won't get you very far.

Do your research about how schools are funded and add common sense, and you'll see that they're not ripping you off.
 
  • #40
hmm, maybe I'm wrong...education here is a lot cheaper and don't tell me how it sucks in Egypt and how its incomparable because I already know, lol
 
  • #41
I guess it all depends how you are brought up. I myself went to a university and let myself go. As in drinking WAY too much and partying a lot. I was raised next to these type of kids so naturally I took that path. I dropped out after my first year.

Just because you go out and enjoy yourself doesn't mean you are an idiot. You just need to control yourself and know how to have a good time without over doing it. Ah what the heck am I posting this for? lol
 
  • #42
JasonRox said:
Check again man.

You got it wrong.

No, I'm actually pretty close to being bang-on... If you exclude Quebec (where in-province students pay 1900 CA$/year in tuition) then 89% of students in Canada pay within $800 of the mean ($4940 is the mean tuition for students outside Quebec).


Canadian average: 4,214 (1,047,700 students)
http://www.simoka.com/tuition-fees.html

university enrolments
(http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/02/07/university-enrolment.html )

province $$$ # of students
NFLD 2,606 18,300
PEI 4,645 3,800
NS 6,281 43,300
NB 5,037 25,000
QC 1,900 (tuition for in-province students only) 266,000
ON 4,881 431,000
MB 3,272 39,700
SK 5,062 33,000
AB 5,125 91,700
BC 4,874 108,200
 
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  • #43
oedipa maas said:
No, I'm actually pretty close to being bang-on... If you exclude Quebec (where in-province students pay 1900 CA$/year in tuition) then 89% of students in Canada pay within $800 of the mean ($4940 is the mean tuition for students outside Quebec).


Canadian average: 4,214 (1,047,700 students)
http://www.simoka.com/tuition-fees.html

university enrolments
(http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/02/07/university-enrolment.html )

province $$$ # of students
NFLD 2,606 18,300
PEI 4,645 3,800
NS 6,281 43,300
NB 5,037 25,000
QC 1,900 (tuition for in-province students only) 266,000
ON 4,881 431,000
MB 3,272 39,700
SK 5,062 33,000
AB 5,125 91,700
BC 4,874 108,200

I'm talking about out-of-province students. If I go to BC (from Ontario), I will pay more than a BC citizen. That's what I have been saying.
 
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  • #44
JasonRox said:
I'm talking about out-of-province students. If I go to BC (from Ontario), I will pay more than a BC citizen. That's what I have been saying.

No, only Quebec has different tuition for out-of-province students. If a resident of Ontario goes to BC for university he or she pays the same tuition as a student who is a BC resident.
 
  • #45
oedipa maas said:
No, only Quebec has different tuition for out-of-province students. If a resident of Ontario goes to BC for university he or she pays the same tuition as a student who is a BC resident.

You're right!

That makes no sense!

How does the funding work in this case?
 
  • #46
AhmedEzz said:
...I'm speechless but I assure you, that this is the third time in my life that I got that word, the first time was nine years ago.

but thanks really...thanks a lot

You'd probably hear it more often if you lived in a more relaxed culture. Just the other day some girl said my best friend was cute, and he's WAY uglier than you. :smile:
 
  • #47
JasonRox said:
You're right!

That makes no sense!

How does the funding work in this case?

Well, I imagine that the number of students going out-of-province for their education is almost equal to the number of students coming in from other provinces. If I was going to bet, I'd say that BC, Ontario and Nova Scotia are gaining more students than they're losing. But I am too lazy to look up the statistics on that subject.

AhmedEzz: sorry for borrowing your thread for this debate. I think going abroad for your education would be a great experience. There is a lot of variety in university life and you'll find a few niches. I've been an expat for two years and there are always a few surprises adjusting to the local way of doing things (food, bureacracy, what students wear to class, what gets printed in the student newspaper...)

Last year I worked with a fun guy from Jordan who is Muslim. He always came to department get-togethers (very casual beer & bbq events). Of course, he didn't drink alcohol or eat (pork) sausages but that didn't interfere with having a good time chatting and hanging out. There were other foreign students who never attended these events (even though everyone was explicitly invited) and I always felt sorry that they didn't feel welcome or didn't feel that their attendance would be worthwhile. I don't think that it's always made clear to foreign students that the social part of going to school/working at a university is as much part of the experience as study and research.
 

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