Is Math Certain? Biochemistry Senior Seeks Answer

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The discussion centers on the certainty of mathematics, particularly arithmetic, and whether its truths are absolute. Participants argue that while arithmetic, like 1+1=2, is defined and consistent within its axiomatic framework, the interpretation of "truth" in mathematics can be complex and philosophical. They highlight that mathematical proofs are based on axioms, which are accepted as true within the system, but this does not necessarily equate to empirical truth in the physical world. The conversation touches on the distinction between mathematical consistency and its application to real-world phenomena, emphasizing that mathematics serves as a useful tool for understanding reality rather than a definitive proof of it. Ultimately, the nature of mathematical certainty remains a nuanced topic, intertwining logic, philosophy, and practical application.
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lavinia said:
Before you give a counter example would you say that the statement "All integers are even." is true?
My first thought about a counter argument was an epimorphism and a short exact sequence, not a counterexample.
 
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coolul007 said:
All things are true, until you find a counter example.

Fermat's last theorem?

Riemann hypothesis?
 
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PeroK said:
Fermat's last theorem?

Riemann hypothesis?
Collatz' conjecture?

My favorite: A closed form expression for ζ(3)?
 
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I think the thread has run its course. There is little left to say, which could be even close to substantial.
It is mathematically certain that the uncertainty principle holds.

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