Is my device's capacitance or resistance causing a measurement problem?

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The discussion centers on measuring capacitance and resistance in a device suspected to be a capacitor. Measurements indicated a capacitance range of 1.5-2.5nF and a resistance of 1.34MOhm. The conversation highlights that real capacitors exhibit non-ideal characteristics, including parallel resistance due to imperfect insulators and series resistance from leads. It emphasizes the importance of using an LCR meter, such as the HP/Agilent 4284A, and ensuring proper compensation for test fixtures and cables to avoid measurement inaccuracies.

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I did some device that should be capacitor. when i try to measure capacitance I got some capacitance that varies like that:(1.5-2.5nF), but.. then i wanted to check resistance just for curiosity.. I got some result..it shows me 1.34MOhm. How it could be? As I understand it should be or capacitance or resistance..I just wanted to understand the circuit of my device. What is what? capacitor and resistor parallel or series? how can i check it?
 
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No capacitor is ideal (i.e. infinite resistance). Depending on what type of capacitor it is, I can imagine various real, non-infinite resistance values. There is always resistance in parallel with the ideal capacity (insulators are imperfect) and a series resistance due to the leads. Can't avoid these.

If you are using an LCR meter to make this measurement, you have to remember it only really measures |Z| and theta. So if you get a bizarro value (e.g. negative resistance or capacitance) it's often because everything else is model and algebra dependent extrapolating from |Z|-theta raw data. Garbage-In-Garbage-Out.

Having such a large variance sounds like a noise/ranging/resolution problem. What instrument are you using to measure this? If you are using something like an HP/Agilent 4284A, it should have no problem with measure device values range but you'd need to autorange. Also: did you compensate your test fixture/cables? That can mess things up also. I'd also look at the raw |Z|-theta data first (this is how you can find bad compensation) and check your bias/osc levels (if your device is small, you may need more AC bias level, or less DC bias - if your LCR supports that).
 

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