Is my integral for the volume of a solid by rotating y=2/x around y=-1 correct?

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The discussion revolves around verifying the integral for the volume of a solid formed by rotating the curve defined by y=2/x around the line y=-1, with specific limits of integration from x=1 to x=3. Participants are exploring the correctness of the integral setup and the simplification of the resulting expression.

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  • One participant presents the integral setup as (2/x + 1)² - (0 + 1)², leading to the expression (4/x² + 4/x).
  • Another participant suggests that the integral simplifies to -4/3 + 4ln(3) and emphasizes the importance of simplifying correctly.
  • There is a discussion about the various forms of the final result when multiplied by pi, including pi(8/3 + log(81)), 8pi/3 + 4pi log(3), and 4/3pi(2 + 3log(3)).
  • A later reply highlights that 4ln(3) can be rewritten as ln(3^4) = ln(81), indicating that these expressions are equivalent.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the initial integral setup, but there is agreement on the simplification of the logarithmic terms. Multiple interpretations of the final expression remain, indicating ongoing uncertainty.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the results from computational tools, suggesting that the commands used may have influenced the outputs. There is also an emphasis on ensuring that all logarithmic identities are correctly applied.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in calculus, particularly in understanding volume integrals and the effects of rotation on curves.

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Okay, so, we have

y=2/x, y=0, x=1, x=3 and it's rotating around y=-1

As I understand it... This means

(2/x +1)^2-(0+1)^2
(4/x^2 + 4/x)

The integral of that is

-4/x + 4ln(x)

Am I right so far?

Plug in the 3, and then the 1

-4/3 + 4ln(3) - -4+4ln(1)

Then the result of that is multiplied by pi

This is where I'm missing something. I tried wolfram, it's coming up with pi(8/3+log(3))?

Is that right? My first answer was pi(8/3+log(81)) but that wasn't right.
 
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You have the right answer, if you just simplify some...combine the two numbers and observe that ln(1) = 0. I'm not sure what command you used with W|A, but that result is not correct. To avoid confusion, you should write:

-4/3 + 4ln(3) -( -4+4ln(1))
 
It does simply down to 8/3+4ln(3)

But what does that become when multiplied by pi?

One of several options wolfram shows is indeed pi(8/3+log(81))

It also comes back with 8pi/3 + 4pi log(3)

And 4/3pi(2+3log(3))

I'm trying to verify I at least got up to a certain point right.
 
Note that:

$$4\ln(3)=\ln\left(3^4\right)=\ln(81)$$

They are all just different ways to write the same thing.
 

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