Is My Method for Deflecting a Beam of Electrons Invalid?

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The discussion revolves around the method for analyzing the deflection of a beam of electrons under the influence of magnetic and electric forces. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism and mechanics, particularly focusing on the motion of charged particles in fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between work, force, and energy in the context of electron motion. Questions arise regarding the validity of the original poster's method and the implications of force direction on the derivation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the forces acting on the electrons and the trajectory they follow. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made in the original poster's approach, particularly concerning the direction and variability of the force.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the force acting on the electrons is variable and that the motion follows a circular trajectory, which may affect the original poster's calculations and assumptions.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



W = -U for conservative forces
F = qV x B = qvBsinθ
W = Fd for conservative forces
K = 1/2mv^2
sinθ = 1 for 90° angles
E1 = E2 (conservation of mechanical energy)

The Attempt at a Solution


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W = -U
-Fd = U

E1 = E2
K = U
K = -Fd = -qvBsinθd
K =-qvBd
-K/qd = Bv (1)

K = (1/2)mv^2
∴ v = sqrt(2K/m)
Substitute into (1)

-K/qd = B ⋅ sqrt(2K/m)
K^2/q^2d^2 = B^2 ⋅ (2K/m)
mK/2q^2d^2 = B^2
B = sqrt(mk/2q^2d^2)

Why is two in the denominator rather than in the numerator? Is my method invalid? If so, where can I improve? Thanks in advance.
 
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The equation K=-Fd is for work done when a force advances distance d in tne direction of the force. Which way is the force here? Which way does the electron move?
 
The electron moves up and to the left in a parabolic trajectory. Therefore, there must be a force exerted up and a force exerted left which negates the electrons initial kinetic energy. How does this realization affect my derivation?
 
Silverado said:
The electron moves up and to the left in a parabolic trajectory. Therefore, there must be a force exerted up and a force exerted left which negates the electrons initial kinetic energy. How does this realization affect my derivation?
that shows the direction of the force changes over time. But the electron moves in a circular arc. Look at any part of that arc. What is the relationship there between the direction of the movement of the electron and the direction of its acceleration? What does that tell you about the direction of the force?
 
The force is variable, therefore my method is invalid. How should I approach this problem, then?
 
The motion follows a circular trajectory. What sort of force results in such a trajectory?
 
Centripetal

F = mv^2/r
 
Silverado said:
Centripetal

F = mv^2/r
Yes.
 

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