Is my reasoning correct? (rotational kinetic energy)

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The discussion centers on the comparison of rotational kinetic energy (RKE) between two solid spheres with equal radii but differing masses. The key equations referenced are L = IW and RKE = 0.5IW². It is established that while sphere A has greater mass and thus greater rotational inertia, sphere B compensates with a higher angular velocity, resulting in greater RKE. The conclusion is that sphere B possesses larger rotational kinetic energy due to its higher angular velocity despite sphere A's greater mass.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



L = IW
RKE = .5IW^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the two solid spheres have equal radii and same angular momenta, except that the mass differs, i think that the inertia is equal. However, since sphere A is more heavy, it would spin slower than sphere B, so Sphere B has larger rotational kinetic energy. (ANS: option e)
 

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lc99 said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



L = IW
RKE = .5IW^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the two solid spheres have equal radii and same angular momenta, except that the mass differs, i think that the inertia is equal. However, since sphere A is more heavy, it would spin slower than sphere B, so Sphere B has larger rotational kinetic energy. (ANS: option e)
The answer is correct, but the reasoning is not.
What do you mean on "Moment"? What is I? does it depend on the mass?
 
lc99 said:

Homework Statement


View attachment 219708

Homework Equations



L = IW
RKE = .5IW^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the two solid spheres have equal radii and same angular momenta, except that the mass differs, i think that the inertia is equal. However, since sphere A is more heavy, it would spin slower than sphere B, so Sphere B has larger rotational kinetic energy. (ANS: option e)
While your conclusion may be correct, your reasoning is not correct.
 
SammyS said:
While your conclusion may be correct, your reasoning is not correct.
ehild said:
The answer is correct, but the reasoning is not.
What do you mean on "Moment"? What is I? does it depend on the mass?
I'm not too sure either.. that's why i kinda made this post. I'm sort of confused cause i thought that sphere A would have higher rotational inertia since it weighs more. Inertia depends on mass , and the formula for the sphere is 2/5MR^2. Since sphere A has more mass, rotational inertia given by .5mr^2W^2 is higher. But we know that momenta, L = IW , is equal for both spheres. Since they both need to have equal L but sphere A has larger Inertia than sphere B.. this means that B has to make up the momenta by having greater angular velocity.

Sphere A ends up have small angular velocity and so small RKE since RKE depends on angular velocity.

(On another note, I think this sounds more correct. I just had to think in a logical order as i typed this up)
 
lc99 said:
I'm not too sure either.. that's why i kinda made this post. I'm sort of confused cause i thought that sphere A would have higher rotational inertia since it weighs more. Inertia depends on mass , and the formula for the sphere is 2/5MR^2. Since sphere A has more mass, rotational inertia given by .5mr^2W^2 is higher. But we know that momenta, L = IW , is equal for both spheres. Since they both need to have equal L but sphere A has larger Inertia than sphere B.. this means that B has to make up the momenta by having greater angular velocity.

Sphere A ends up have small angular velocity and so small RKE since RKE depends on angular velocity.

(On another note, I think this sounds more correct. I just had to think in a logical order as i typed this up)

It is better now. Yes, as A has greater mass than B, and both have the same radius, I, the rotational inertia is greater for A.
The rotational kinetic energy is Erot =0.5 Iω2, but it can be written also as Erot =0.5 L2/I (as ω=L/I), it is clear which sphere has greater energy.
 
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