Is my reasoning correct? (rotational kinetic energy)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of rotational kinetic energy and the relationship between mass, rotational inertia, and angular velocity in the context of two solid spheres with equal radii but differing masses. Participants explore how these factors influence the rotational kinetic energy of each sphere.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants examine the relationship between mass and rotational inertia, questioning the assumptions made about angular momentum and its implications for rotational kinetic energy. There is a focus on understanding how the heavier sphere's inertia affects its angular velocity and energy compared to the lighter sphere.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the conclusions drawn about the spheres' rotational kinetic energy. Some participants offer clarifications on the definitions and relationships involved, while others express confusion and seek further understanding of the concepts at play.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that both spheres have equal angular momentum, which complicates the relationship between their masses and rotational kinetic energies. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the definitions of terms like "moment" and "inertia," as well as the formulas used in the context of rotational motion.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



L = IW
RKE = .5IW^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the two solid spheres have equal radii and same angular momenta, except that the mass differs, i think that the inertia is equal. However, since sphere A is more heavy, it would spin slower than sphere B, so Sphere B has larger rotational kinetic energy. (ANS: option e)
 

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lc99 said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



L = IW
RKE = .5IW^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the two solid spheres have equal radii and same angular momenta, except that the mass differs, i think that the inertia is equal. However, since sphere A is more heavy, it would spin slower than sphere B, so Sphere B has larger rotational kinetic energy. (ANS: option e)
The answer is correct, but the reasoning is not.
What do you mean on "Moment"? What is I? does it depend on the mass?
 
lc99 said:

Homework Statement


View attachment 219708

Homework Equations



L = IW
RKE = .5IW^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the two solid spheres have equal radii and same angular momenta, except that the mass differs, i think that the inertia is equal. However, since sphere A is more heavy, it would spin slower than sphere B, so Sphere B has larger rotational kinetic energy. (ANS: option e)
While your conclusion may be correct, your reasoning is not correct.
 
SammyS said:
While your conclusion may be correct, your reasoning is not correct.
ehild said:
The answer is correct, but the reasoning is not.
What do you mean on "Moment"? What is I? does it depend on the mass?
I'm not too sure either.. that's why i kinda made this post. I'm sort of confused cause i thought that sphere A would have higher rotational inertia since it weighs more. Inertia depends on mass , and the formula for the sphere is 2/5MR^2. Since sphere A has more mass, rotational inertia given by .5mr^2W^2 is higher. But we know that momenta, L = IW , is equal for both spheres. Since they both need to have equal L but sphere A has larger Inertia than sphere B.. this means that B has to make up the momenta by having greater angular velocity.

Sphere A ends up have small angular velocity and so small RKE since RKE depends on angular velocity.

(On another note, I think this sounds more correct. I just had to think in a logical order as i typed this up)
 
lc99 said:
I'm not too sure either.. that's why i kinda made this post. I'm sort of confused cause i thought that sphere A would have higher rotational inertia since it weighs more. Inertia depends on mass , and the formula for the sphere is 2/5MR^2. Since sphere A has more mass, rotational inertia given by .5mr^2W^2 is higher. But we know that momenta, L = IW , is equal for both spheres. Since they both need to have equal L but sphere A has larger Inertia than sphere B.. this means that B has to make up the momenta by having greater angular velocity.

Sphere A ends up have small angular velocity and so small RKE since RKE depends on angular velocity.

(On another note, I think this sounds more correct. I just had to think in a logical order as i typed this up)

It is better now. Yes, as A has greater mass than B, and both have the same radius, I, the rotational inertia is greater for A.
The rotational kinetic energy is Erot =0.5 Iω2, but it can be written also as Erot =0.5 L2/I (as ω=L/I), it is clear which sphere has greater energy.
 
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