Is my textbook wrong (acceleration problem)

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of acceleration and velocity signs in relation to an object's motion, specifically addressing a claim from a textbook regarding when an object is speeding up or slowing down.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between velocity and acceleration signs, questioning the textbook's assertion that the sign of acceleration alone does not determine whether an object is speeding up or slowing down. They analyze specific examples of velocity changes and acceleration calculations.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the motion described, with some participants clarifying the conditions under which an object speeds up or slows down. There is an acknowledgment of differing perspectives on the signs of velocity and acceleration throughout the object's motion.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem, including the need to consider the object's position on the x-axis and the transition between negative and positive velocity states. The original poster expresses confusion about the textbook's claims and seeks validation of their understanding.

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My textbook, University Physics 12th ed, claims that the sign of x-acceleration does not tell you whether a body is speeding up or slowing down. It claims that the body is speeding up only when the velocity and acceleration have the same sign. Likewise, it claims that a body is slowing down only when the velocity and acceleration differ in signs.

I tried to prove this to myself and found an inconsistency.

v0x = -10 m/s
v1x = 5 m/s


Here, the magnitude of the velocity (speed) is decreasing. The velocity vector itself is positive, since it is going from the negative x-axis to the positive x axis.

So we have a decreasing speed and a positive velocity.

Ok, so what about the acceleration?

I have ax= lim ((5 - (-10)) / \Deltat which is a positive quantity.

So we have a positive acceleration.

According to my book a positive sign on the velocity and a positive sign on the acceleration produce an increase in speed. Am I analyzing this in the wrong manner?(sorry for the poor formatting, I'll improve with time)
 
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nissan4l0 said:
Here, the magnitude of the velocity (speed) is decreasing. The velocity vector itself is positive, since it is going from the negative x-axis to the positive x axis.
You don't know where the object is on the x axis, you only know its velocity.

The acceleration is positive as you say, so at time 0, when the object was moving in the negative direction, the object was slowing down. At time 1 when the object was moving in the positive direction the object was speeding up.

In other words, the object, originally moving in the negative direction, slowed down, came to a stop, and then sped up in the positive direction.
 
nissan4l0 said:
My textbook, University Physics 12th ed, claims that the sign of x-acceleration does not tell you whether a body is speeding up or slowing down. It claims that the body is speeding up only when the velocity and acceleration have the same sign. Likewise, it claims that a body is slowing down only when the velocity and acceleration differ in signs.

I tried to prove this to myself and found an inconsistency.

v0x = -10 m/s
v1x = 5 m/s


Here, the magnitude of the velocity (speed) is decreasing. The velocity vector itself is positive, since it is going from the negative x-axis to the positive x axis.

So we have a decreasing speed and a positive velocity.
Do you mean positive acceleration?
Initially the object was going to the left (x decreasing, negative velocity) finally, it was going to the right (x increasing, positive velocity)

[quoote]Ok, so what about the acceleration?

I have ax= lim ((5 - (-10)) / \Deltat which is a positive quantity.

So we have a positive acceleration.

According to my book a positive sign on the velocity and a positive sign on the acceleration produce an increase in speed. Am I analyzing this in the wrong manner?


(sorry for the poor formatting, I'll improve with time)[/QUOTE]
You statement that velocity is positive is wrong. The velocity is negative for part of the motion, positive for part.
 
Ok, thanks guys it all makes sense to me now that I read and understood your postings. I appreciate it!
 

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