Is Phi One-to-One and What is Its Image for a Given Rectangle?

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The discussion revolves around the mapping defined by the function phi(u,v) = (u^2, v) and whether it is one-to-one. Participants are tasked with determining a suitable domain for phi to be one-to-one and finding the image of a specified rectangle R = [-1, 1] x [-1, 1] under this mapping.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the concept of one-to-one mappings and question how to determine if phi is one-to-one. They discuss specific points that map to the same output and consider the implications for the function's injectivity. There are inquiries about the meaning of the mapping and how to find the image of the rectangle.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problem. Some have suggested examining specific values of phi to understand its one-to-one nature, while others have prompted further exploration of the mapping process and the resulting image.

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Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and processes involved in mapping and images, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts. There is also mention of the challenge posed by the textbook's explanations.

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Let [phi](u,v)=(u^2,v). Is phi one-to-one? If not, determine a domain on which phi is one-to-one. Find the image under phi of:

- The rectangle R=[-1,1]X[-1,1]





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- I'm not sure at all how to determine whether phi is one-to-one or not, so if somebody can explain that, that would be of great help.

I thought I knew how to find the image under phi (because I got the right answers the way I did it on the previous problem), but I'm not getting the right answers on this problem. Please help.
 
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That's a pretty weak attempt. Can't you think of two (u,v) points that map to the same point under (u,v)->(u^2,v)??
 
Dick said:
That's a pretty weak attempt. Can't you think of two (u,v) points that map to the same point under (u,v)->(u^2,v)??

- I guess I just don't get it or something. The book just doesn't explain mapping in a way I really understand at all.
 
Ok. What are the values of phi(-1,0) and phi(1,0)? What does that say about the possibility of phi being one-to-one.
 
Dick said:
Ok. What are the values of phi(-1,0) and phi(1,0)? What does that say about the possibility of phi being one-to-one.

- those values would give you (1,0) and (1,0), and I don't think that would be one-to-one because you can only have each value once. So it would only be one-to-one when u>=0 or u<=0.

If that is the right way of looking at the one-to-one part. What exactly does the mapping part of the question mean?
 
Yes, that's the right way of looking at the 1-1 part. If by 'mapping' part you mean the image part, the question is to describe the region that [-1,1]x[-1,1] maps to. Hint: u->u^2 maps [-1,1] to [0,1], doesn't it?
 
Dick said:
Yes, that's the right way of looking at the 1-1 part. If by 'mapping' part you mean the image part, the question is to describe the region that [-1,1]x[-1,1] maps to. Hint: u->u^2 maps [-1,1] to [0,1], doesn't it?

- I'm sure this is going to sound like a dumb question, but how do you get the zero in the [0,1]. I knew that from looking at the answer in the back of the book, but I'm not completely sure on how you get to that. So I guess I'm just not completely sure on the process involved here. The first region is in the uv plane, right? So is the problem asking to find the image in the xy plane?
 
I got the 0 because u->u^2 for u in [-1,1] has a max at 1 and a min at 0 and it's continuous. Draw the graph. So the range is [0,1]. I won't say it's a dumb question, but it's hard to figure out what you aren't getting. Plug a lot of numbers into (u,v)->(u^2,v) and draw arrows connecting them from the uv plane to the xy plane, if that's what you want to call the image. Keep doing that until you get some grasp of what's happening. Then step back and think about what's happening.
 
Dick said:
I got the 0 because u->u^2 for u in [-1,1] has a max at 1 and a min at 0 and it's continuous. Draw the graph. So the range is [0,1]. I won't say it's a dumb question, but it's hard to figure out what you aren't getting. Plug a lot of numbers into (u,v)->(u^2,v) and draw arrows connecting them from the uv plane to the xy plane, if that's what you want to call the image. Keep doing that until you get some grasp of what's happening. Then step back and think about what's happening.

- I'll try what you said and see if I can get a better grasp on it. I think I'm pretty close to understanding it though.
 

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