Is Piaggio's Differential Equations worth reading?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relevance and usefulness of Piaggio's book on differential equations in the context of studying physics and mathematics. Participants explore the historical significance of the book, its teaching approach, and potential alternatives for self-study.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the usefulness of Piaggio's book for modern studies in physics, suggesting that it may be outdated compared to more recent texts.
  • One participant notes that the focus in teaching differential equations has shifted from finding explicit solutions to studying qualitative behaviors, indicating a potential gap in older texts.
  • Another participant suggests that while older books can contain valuable knowledge, modern texts may provide a more comprehensive understanding, especially for beginners.
  • Several participants recommend alternative resources, such as "Ordinary Differential Equations and Dynamical Systems" by Teschl and "Differential Equations" by Ross, highlighting their accessibility and pedagogical strengths.
  • There is a shared sentiment that some "methods" books may gloss over theoretical aspects, which could be a concern for those who prefer a more in-depth theoretical approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of Piaggio's book, with some advocating for its historical significance while others emphasize the need for more modern resources. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach for studying differential equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of bibliographies in modern texts that reference older literature, suggesting a need for a balance between historical and contemporary perspectives in learning resources.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for self-learners in physics and mathematics, particularly those interested in differential equations and the evolution of teaching methods in this area.

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I got to know of this book through Freeman Dyson's obituary. Just wondering, is it useful in studying Physics (it seems to cover everything), do people even use it these days? I understand differential equations are basically half of Physics. By the way, this book is really old, are there any better, newer ones?
 
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It looks like Piaggio has written a number of books on the topic. Do you mean An elementary treatise on differential equations and their applications with a first edition from 1920? There is some history about that. While I do not know this book myself, I have two comments that may be useful.

Since the first half of the 20th century, the accent in teaching and research on DEs has changed quite a bit, from finding explicit solutions of specific equations towards studying qualitative behavior of families of such equations. This does not mean that the classical perspective is any less useful, but it does mean that a more modern book (maybe something not dating back further than the 1960s recent) may give you a more complete picture. I would choose a book that offers both perspectives and also refers to the older literature.

In general, older books can still be very useful. Sometimes they contain somewhat forgotten but very valuable knowledge. (Some of my favorite analysis books first appeared in the 1950s.) However, for a first encounter, more modern books can be more useful, as long as they contain a good bibliography that does not ignore older and original publications.

Maybe someone else knows more about Piaggio's book proper. If you need other suggestions, I can provide them. What is your background?
 
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@S.G. Janssens, I am self-studying Physics and Mathematics. I still have a very long way to go; just started reading Terence Tao's Analysis. I also got Boas' Mathematical Methods for the Physical Sciences, but it seems to gloss over a lot of theory, and thus makes it hard to understand (plus I enjoy theory too, not just application)...
 
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yucheng said:
I am self-studying Physics and Mathematics.
Nice! Maybe check out micromass's Insight articles at some point.
yucheng said:
I still have a very long way to go; just started reading Terence Tao's Analysis.
Good choice.
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I also got Boas' Mathematical Methods for the Physical Sciences, but it seems to gloss over a lot of theory, and thus makes it hard to understand (plus I enjoy theory too, not just application)...
"Methods" books do that sometimes. It's a certain style, and from my own experience I can understand your preference for a different style.

I can think more about it, and other will probably chime in as well, but here is already one book that might appeal: Ordinary Differential Equations and Dynamical Systems by Teschl. The author has made it available for free.

The author's research interest is in mathematical physics and DEs. Apart from some notation that I find awkward, I think it is a good book. Given your background knowledge, it may be slightly early to try, but we used it as the supplementary text for second year undergraduate students of DEs. In any case, you can easily have a look.
 
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yucheng said:
@S.G. Janssens, I am self-studying Physics and Mathematics. I still have a very long way to go; just started reading Terence Tao's Analysis. I also got Boas' Mathematical Methods for the Physical Sciences, but it seems to gloss over a lot of theory, and thus makes it hard to understand (plus I enjoy theory too, not just application)...
If it is your first encounter, then maybe look at Ross: Differential Equations. Do not get the book titled Introductory. The Differential Equations books contains the Introduction to Differential Equations, but more topics for a second course. I remember Micromass recommending this book to me. It is very easy to read and work through. Maybe supplement it with a cheap copy of Zill: Differential Equation (cheapest edition you can find) for about $5-$10. You don't necessarily have to read Zill. The explanation in Ross is superior, but Zill has lots of problems... So use Zill more as a workbook.
 
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