Is Race War Inevitable? - Watch this Youtube Video to Explore the Topic!

[Frame Dragger]

Ha!

 

[Galteeth]

On the original topic, I think this is an interesting example of something going viral that really isn't that significant. I mean, Marxist professors are a dime a dozen, and have been for a long time. Really, so what?

 

[pallidin]

Really, so what?

Trust me when I say that some people do not regard this general issue as a "so what"
Sad, I know, but the truth.

 

[Char. Limit]

So what? Well, if someone is attempting to instigate a quarter of America to kill me, even if they aren't succeeding, I still regard that as a threat. Because it is.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqPo5ofk0s"

http://www.santeefalcons.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=82977&type=u&rn=1830815" " he speaks of, and a student orginazation called M.E.Ch.A., which is present in most public and some private schools in the Southwestern United States:

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/nat.html#3"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/aztlan.html"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/st_barbara.html"
http://www.bruinalumni.com/antonio/antonioindex.html"

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM"

 

[Proton Soup]

dude, i don't know what you're worried about. if these guys were to run california and the rest of the southwest the way mexico is run today, then no mexicans would want to be there. they would be spilling over the border into Canada and what was left of the USA chasing greenbacks and loonies.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

So what? Well, if someone is attempting to instigate a quarter of America to kill me, even if they aren't succeeding, I still regard that as a threat. Because it is.

Though he uses race references and "revolution" right next to each other I did not get any indication that he was inciting violent revolution against whites. He is using charged rhetoric. "Revolution" is often used as a synonym for striving towards great political change by more radically socialist groups. You'll note that he says these people going to their offices and working are part of the "revolution".

The only thing that I really found all that bothersome about the speech was the appeal to racial pride and unity which makes me cringe regardless of context. Other than that it just seemed typical inflamed socialist rhetoric.

 

[Char. Limit]

Dude, I don't know what you're worried about. If these guys were to run California and the rest of the Southwest the way Mexico is run today, then no Mexicans would want to be there. They would be spilling over the border into Canada and what was left of the USA chasing greenbacks and loonies.

Try telling them that. If you do, tell us how well it went.

 

[Char. Limit]

Though he uses race references and "revolution" right next to each other I did not get any indication that he was inciting violent revolution against whites. He is using charged rhetoric. "Revolution" is often used as a synonym for striving towards great political change by more radically socialist groups. You'll note that he says these people going to their offices and working are part of the "revolution".

The only thing that I really found all that bothersome about the speech was the appeal to racial pride and unity which makes me cringe regardless of context. Other than that it just seemed typical inflamed socialist rhetoric.

'Tis true, my friend. However, he is not the only one, and others do attempt to incite a violent rebellion. Them, I worry about. In addition, as you said, racial pride (and racial guilt) is overall negative. Take pride in yourself, maybe your nationality, but not your race. To use truly accurate terms, a person of light skin color (we're not white, we're more pinkish) does not make me take pride in their achievements any more than a person of dark skin coloring would.

Ah, the refreshing ambiguity of the singular they.

 

[Proton Soup]

Try telling them that. If you do, tell us how well it went.

them who? la raza? i don't really care. let them run for office here, it's a free country. if they do well, if the communities they serve in are successful, then the people there will reward them with re-election and their movement will grow. else, if the economies they occupy falter, people will see them for what they are and the movement will die off.

 

[Char. Limit]

Them who? La Raza? I don't really care. Let them run for office here, it's a free country. If they do well, if the communities they serve in are successful, then the people there will reward them with re-election and their movement will grow. Else, if the economies they occupy falter, people will see them for what they are and the movement will die off.

I can't argue against that. Concedo.

 

[pallidin]

Could a desire to increase "gang" presence and drug trafficking have anything to do with this?

Uhhh... YES!

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbwPN4zkd7Q"

 

[WhoWee]

Gee, I thought the Tea Party members were supposed to be one of the more dangerous groups?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Could a desire to increase "gang" presence and drug trafficking have anything to do with this?

Uhhh... YES!

A college professor speaking to students, faculty, and professionals is supporting gangs and drug trafficking? You're joking right?

 

[cronxeh]

A college professor speaking to students, faculty, and professionals is supporting gangs and drug trafficking? You're joking right?

He is not a professor, he is a high school history teacher, and if anything a skewed history at that.

Here is his page at his place of employment:
http://www.santeefalcons.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=82977&type=u&rn=2527821

Educaton
Santa Monica High School '99
San Diego State University '04 Social Science, Chicana/Chicano Studies
UCLA '06, Masters Education (postgraduate)

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

He is not a professor, he is a high school history teacher, and if anything a skewed history at that.

Pardon the mistake. Does it make any difference to my point? High school teachers are more supportive of gangs and drugs you think?

 

[cronxeh]

Pardon the mistake. Does it make any difference to my point? High school teachers are more supportive of gangs and drugs you think?

Either they sympathize with their position or get their *** handed to them. Teaching high school is occupational hazard, especially in inner city neighborhoods and jungles of LA.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Either they sympathize with their position or get their *** handed to them. Teaching high school is occupational hazard, especially in inner city neighborhoods and jungles of LA.

It is certainly more dangerous, I won't deny that, but I think perhaps you have been watching too many movies. The teachers may sympathize with the kids in gangs knowing that it is dangerous to be a kid in that area not affiliated with a gang and realizing the peer pressure. These same teachers though would much rather see their students get out of the gangs, they do not support them they only realize that it is a reality of the world these kids live in. And it is probably rather few teachers that are at all sympathetic. The reason it is dangerous to be a teacher in these areas is because telling these kids who have no respect for authority figures what to do is likely to make them a target. Most teachers would likely rather get rid of these kids and have nothing to do with them.

 

[Char. Limit]

I just read a bit more on this MEChA thing. These guys are threatening secession. Remember the last time someone threatened secession?

I'm hoping these wackos get their way, so that we can make war on them as a foreign and invading nation. Teach these secessionists a lesson, I say.

 

[cronxeh]

I just read a bit more on this MEChA thing. These guys are threatening secession. Remember the last time someone threatened secession?

I'm hoping these wackos get their way, so that we can make war on them as a foreign and invading nation. Teach these secessionists a lesson, I say.

So your solution is to basically murder them for voicing their opinions. For now its covered under the free speech clause, and that is the beauty of this country, you can vent your feelings without any consequences, and I guess most people cool off and move on to other things. Those who actually move to the next phase from propaganda to action usually encounter ATF or FBI as a roadblock during their attempts to obtain weapons or explosives, or during planning phases or even execution phases.

I think this is a failure of LAPD as a whole, and their incompetence to control the gangs in LA. Their inability to police the city has endangered the entire country. They allowed the spread of MS-13 under their 'watchful eye'. At this point in time they can no longer attract enough personnel due to the bankrupt state, and it has caused a systemic failure.

Compared to LAPD, NYPD uses 2.78 times more money to get the job done with 3.51 times more officers for a city of 2.2 times more people but with almost half the land area. The LAPD should have hired at least 6000 more officers to get this job done, not accounting for all the illegals that are in LA. If you account the illegals then LAPD should be at least 10000 more officers strong. This is a failure of planning, policing, and leadership.

 

[Argentum Vulpes]

Don't blame all of LA's gang/crime problems on the LAPD. Some of the blame should go to these wonderful http://www.copwatchla.org/". Also don't forget the ACLU. Sue and put a cop in jail for doing his job and see how many new officers that can be hired, and look for large amounts of apathy from the ones on the force.

 

[cronxeh]

Don't blame all of LA's gang/crime problems on the LAPD. Some of the blame should go to these wonderful http://www.copwatchla.org/". Also don't forget the ACLU. Sue and put a cop in jail for doing his job and see how many new officers that can be hired, and look for large amounts of apathy from the ones on the force.

Well then the citizens get what they deserve. Let them get stabbed and welfared into bankruptcy. From this side I will be laughing the loudest at the Cali way.

 

[Argentum Vulpes]

Well then the citizens get what they deserve. Let them get stabbed and welfared into bankruptcy. From this side I will be laughing the loudest at the Cali way.

Hell I'm worried that California will become the USAs Greece. Maybe dumping it off to Mexico isn't such a bad idea, or the big one could hit and dump the southern half of the state into the ocean.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Hell I'm worried that California will become the USAs Greece. Maybe dumping it off to Mexico isn't such a bad idea, or the big one could hit and dump the southern half of the state into the ocean.

California accounts for a rather substantial fraction of this country's economy.

 

[Argentum Vulpes]

That maybe true but California is looking at some of the same problems that Greece had/has. Large unsecured pensions that are forcing many cites in California into http://www.scpr.org/news/2009/07/16/california-pensions-forcing-cities-bankruptcy/" . This is the biggest and most deadly one but there are many more that are facing the state.

 

[Char. Limit]

So your solution is to basically murder them for voicing their opinions. For now its covered under the free speech clause, and that is the beauty of this country, you can vent your feelings without any consequences, and I guess most people cool off and move on to other things. Those who actually move to the next phase from propaganda to action usually encounter ATF or FBI as a roadblock during their attempts to obtain weapons or explosives, or during planning phases or even execution phases.

I feel a need to say that I never mentioned the word "murder". I said war as on a foreign nation. That means military targets only. It wouldn't be our fault if large numbers of Aztlanites joined their army because they were so proud of their new nation... I never have and never will advocate the destruction of civilian targets. And I would wait until they seceded before I attacked their military ones. You'll get a lot more from me than you would from many people on hearing the situation.

And hey, what they're planning is a demographic invasion. If they succeed, if they secede, than the U.S. has every right to make war upon the seceders. For some reason, however, the last group to try it is still mad about the outcome...

 

[IMP]

I think the Rally car guys would take the Nascar guys on a tight course. On a longer course with long straightaways, the Nascar guys might take them. Those Rally cars do pull hard out of the turns and accelerate very hard, but likely don't have the same top-end speed as the Nascars do.
Oh wait, wrong "Race War", my mistake...

 

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