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[IcedEcliptic]

This patrol isn't letting blacks or italians out on the streets on its watch. They are just looking out for the community, with specific emphasis on the jewish community who they feel is 'preyed upon'. I don't really feel this is racist at all, just looking out for yourself, your family, your friends, and your 'brethren'. Nothing you said makes me feel that this Jew patrol is racist at all.

I disagree that it has to do with votes though, I think if the black community wanted to set up their own patrol they would be more than welcome to. As long as the conduct themselves in a non-racist way... otherwise it's just a gang. In fact the black community DOES have a sort of 'look-out' patrol, FOR THE ENTIRE NATION! Multitudes of reverends and 'black rights activist' who go and riot/protest every other black persons death.

Muslims have the concept of their Umah, for black people, the Black Panthers spring to mind.

 

[Char. Limit]

So you just implied that racism is ok if you have enough voters? (Although 12% < 27% by voters)

What if you are a restaurant owner and you want to serve only Italians and Russians, and not allow any Jews or Blacks in your establishment. Is that legal?

I see a perfect opportunity to return the thread to its rails...

While I wouldn't use the word "ok", if you have the votes, you can push forward a racist platform. As evidence, I offer up... La Raza! You know, the original topic. They campaign on a message of "whitey's evil, whitey's going to die, whitey's going to get deported" and they get votes. They get votes because even though their program is racist... Actually, they get votes because their message is racist, and the racism appeals to the nonwhite people who feel that way (note: not all nonwhite people feel that way). So if it works for La Raza, why would it not work for others?

 

[WhoWee]

Just a political reality. Christians have their own army, I believe it is called the US Army. Let's not forget that while Christians are a minority in the USA, our science and social policies are driven by their sensitivities.

Care to back up any of this...maybe even explain your comments a bit?

 

[WhoWee]

So you just implied that racism is ok if you have enough voters? (Although 12% < 27% by voters)

Are we back to the discussion of illegal aliens?

 

[IcedEcliptic]

Care to back up any of this...maybe even explain your comments a bit?

Stem cell research would be one, abortion another, you can't be an atheist according to the Boy Scouts of America, and so forth. You can argue for whether that is right or wrong, moral or immoral, but it is a political and social reality. For the US Army, I don't need to back the women comment, because that is published law, as are studies of rape and other abuses within the ranks, and the manner in which this has been handled. Better than some countries, but the Israelis think you are hilarious; their women can double-tap someone at 300 meters with an old Kalashnikov.

The religion is harder to prove, but there have been some well publicized instnances of evangelism run amok, but that is possibly a minority. That the US Military is predominantly christian is not up for debate, it just is. I don't believe it keeps the job from being done, but in a nation that is not majority christian, it stands out.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

That the US Military is predominantly christian is not up for debate, it just is. I don't believe it keeps the job from being done, but in a nation that is not majority christian, it stands out.

The majority of the US population is christian, their percentage of the population as a whole being in the vicinity of 70-80%. Its the fundamentalists and evangelicals that are minority.

 

[GRB 080319B]

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We remain a hunted people. Now, you think you have a destiny to fulfill in this land that has historically been ours for 40,000 years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. This is our homeland. We cannot, we will not, and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants who came from another country to another country. We are migrants free to travel the length and breadth of the America because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They're dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our population.

Jose Angel Gutierrez – Professor and Founder for the Center for Mexican American Studies at University of Texas, Arlington

Its not enough to elect latino leadership, if they're supporting legislation that denies the undocumented. They don't belong in office, friends. They don't belong here.

Antonio Villaraigosa - Mayor of Los Angeles

And those rednecks, who are out there making descisions for the betterment of their communities will think twice before they push forward on anti-immigrant legislation against our community. You can be as revolutionary as you want. You can be Chicano-nationalist. You can believe in the concept of Aztlan. You can believe in the concept of multi-culturalism. We don't have to give our lives. We're not at that point. But we can give a little.

Fabian Nunez – 66th Speaker of the California State Assembly

Aztlan. A nation of Aztlan. You know, when the extreme right-wing talks about Aztlan, I guess it's from a guilty complex, because they know what they did in Texas.

Herman Baca – Chicano Committee on Civil Rights

We have the armor. We have the infantry. We have the artillery. We have them combined under one organized command, so we can wage an effective combative war against those racists that are trying to contain, discriminate and impede our development.

Armando Navarro – Professor of Ethnic Studies at UC Riverside

The last gasp of white America. Understand that. And people say to me on the Senate floor, when I was in the Senate, why do fight so hard for affirmative action programs. And I tell my white colleagues, “Because your going to need them.”

Art Torres – Chairman of the California Democratic Party

But when we look at, in the audience, and we see La Familia, La Raza, you know it's a great feeling. Isn't it a good feeling? And then, you know, I started to think about that and I said, it reminded me of a book we all read and have all heard about. You know, Paul Revere, and when he was saying “The British are coming, The British are coming.” Well, the Latinos are coming, the Latinos are coming. So that's what this agenda is about. It's about assuring that we increase our numbers. That we increase our numbers at every level. And let me tell you, we can't go back. You know, we're in a civil war. United Latinos will win.

Joe Baca – United States Congressman from California's 43rd district

The de facto elimination of the border between Mexico and the United States. I believe that the debate revolving around our immigration policy should reflect the fact that this phenomenon is underway.

Tom Tancredo – United States Congressman from Colorado's 6th district

La Raza's student organization, M.E.Ch.A., is present in most public schools and colleges in the Southwest. The founding documents of M.E.Ch.A. call for the repatriation of the Southwestern United States to Mexico and the expulsion of people of European descent from
Aztlan.

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/nat.html#1"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/aztlan.html"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/st_barbara.html"
http://www.bruinalumni.com/antonio/antonioindex.html"

Arizona is attempting to crack down on organizations like M.E.Ch.A. that masquerade as an Ethnic Studies class in order to promote racial supremacy and secessionist sentiments.
"[URL
Overview Arizona H2281[/URL]
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2281h.htm"

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

GRB, maybe you can actually discuss the issue here instead of simply posting links and quotes?

 

[drankin]

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Jose Angel Gutierrez – Professor and Founder for the Center for Mexican American Studies at University of Texas, Arlington


Antonio Villaraigosa - Mayor of Los Angeles


Fabian Nunez – 66th Speaker of the California State Assembly


Herman Baca – Chicano Committee on Civil Rights


Armando Navarro – Professor of Ethnic Studies at UC Riverside


Art Torres – Chairman of the California Democratic Party


Joe Baca – United States Congressman from California's 43rd district


Tom Tancredo – United States Congressman from Colorado's 6th district

La Raza's student organization, M.E.Ch.A., is present in most public schools and colleges in the Southwest. The founding documents of M.E.Ch.A. call for the repatriation of the Southwestern United States to Mexico and the expulsion of people of European descent from
Aztlan.

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/nat.html#1"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/aztlan.html"
http://www.utpa.edu/orgs/mecha/st_barbara.html"
http://www.bruinalumni.com/antonio/antonioindex.html"

Arizona is attempting to crack down on organizations like M.E.Ch.A. that masquerade as an Ethnic Studies class in order to promote racial supremacy and secessionist sentiments.
"[URL
Overview Arizona H2281[/URL]
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2281h.htm"

Wow, a significant load of BS... and people listen to it. Basically, "I'm entitled to citizenship because of my race.".

 

[mheslep]

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Arizona is attempting to crack down on organizations like M.E.Ch.A. that masquerade as an Ethnic Studies class in order to promote racial supremacy and secessionist sentiments.
"[URL
Overview Arizona H2281[/URL]
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2281h.htm"

These groups deserve exactly the same treatment as the Klu Klux Klan. There's a proven method in place for the problem, it is merely waiting for the will to execute it.

 

[Galteeth]

These groups deserve exactly the same treatment as the Klu Klux Klan. There's a proven method in place for the problem, it is merely waiting for the will to execute it.

Exposing their membership, passwords, and rituals via radio?

 

[mheslep]

Exposing their membership, passwords, and rituals via radio?

Lawsuits. Bankrupt them.

 

[thack45]

Racism in the U.S. will never go away before its profitabillity does - and prejudice will not go away because it is human nature.

 

[Char. Limit]

Racism is profitable now?

Please explain how racism is profitable...

 

[leroyjenkens]

Racism is profitable now?

Please explain how racism is profitable...

 

[thack45]

I had a dog, and his name was bingo!

 

[GRB 080319B]

GRB, maybe you can actually discuss the issue here instead of simply posting links and quotes?

I accept the fact that this kind of acrimonious propaganda is being disseminated in colleges and other private institutions: as US citizens, we are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly" (out of context),

It is a tribute to the First Amendment that this kind of vile, contemptable nonsense is so freely propagated.

My issue is that I do not believe that organizations that preach ethnic cleansing and sedition should be allowed in public schools that are funded by taxpayers. I believe that organizations such as these, as mheslep mentioned, should be admonished as any other hate group would be in this situation. I truly hope that this is only the conjecture of a few deviant professors, and not a symptom of the whole. I implore anyone who has been a member of any of these organizations to step forward and clear the organizations' name, as I don't want to believe that groups like M.E.Ch.A. and La Raza are indoctrinating school children with this kind of unrepentant bigotry.

 

[Proton Soup]

I accept the fact that this kind of acrimonious propaganda is being disseminated in colleges and other private institutions: as US citizens, we are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly" (out of context),


My issue is that I do not believe that organizations that preach ethnic cleansing and sedition should be allowed in public schools that are funded by taxpayers. I believe that organizations such as these, as mheslep mentioned, should be admonished as any other hate group would be in this situation. I truly hope that this is only the conjecture of a few deviant professors, and not a symptom of the whole. I implore anyone who has been a member of any of these organizations to step forward and clear the organizations' name, as I don't want to believe that groups like M.E.Ch.A. and La Raza are indoctrinating school children with this kind of unrepentant bigotry.

perhaps you could quote the actual things you believe support your thesis and argue for it, then. because i actually took the time to listen to the guy in your first post, and all that he preached was communism. the rest you had to assume was implied. and so, I've ignored all the rest of your links because it seems like a waste of my time.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I accept the fact that this kind of acrimonious propaganda is being disseminated in colleges and other private institutions: as US citizens, we are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly" (out of context),


My issue is that I do not believe that organizations that preach ethnic cleansing and sedition should be allowed in public schools that are funded by taxpayers. I believe that organizations such as these, as mheslep mentioned, should be admonished as any other hate group would be in this situation. I truly hope that this is only the conjecture of a few deviant professors, and not a symptom of the whole. I implore anyone who has been a member of any of these organizations to step forward and clear the organizations' name, as I don't want to believe that groups like M.E.Ch.A. and La Raza are indoctrinating school children with this kind of unrepentant bigotry.

I see some inflammatory rhetoric but I do not see that it is the basis for race war. I have seen similar rhetoric directed towards the "war on drugs" among other things.

Maybe people would be less racist if there were less racism? At work the other day a man called me and asked me to do something about a woman on property who he was certain did not belong. I found a hispanic lady speaking to her friend in spanish and I could not discern any other reason why this man may have believed that she did not belong there other than the fact that she was mexican and speaking spanish. She actually lived there and told me that it has happened to her multiple times now that people reported her as someone who does not belong there. That's pretty sad, and I would be pissed off myself if I were treated like that on a regular basis.

 

[Galteeth]

I see some inflammatory rhetoric but I do not see that it is the basis for race war. I have seen similar rhetoric directed towards the "war on drugs" among other things.

Maybe people would be less racist if there were less racism? At work the other day a man called me and asked me to do something about a woman on property who he was certain did not belong. I found a hispanic lady speaking to her friend in spanish and I could not discern any other reason why this man may have believed that she did not belong there other than the fact that she was mexican and speaking spanish. She actually lived there and told me that it has happened to her multiple times now that people reported her as someone who does not belong there. That's pretty sad, and I would be pissed off myself if I were treated like that on a regular basis.

It's not just racism,it's a general sense of "otherness" that people are uncomfortable with. I have been stopped by the police numerous times for complaints of "suspicious behavior" including walking to the gas station to buy cigarettes, going to dunkin donuts to get coffee, buying ice cream (in that case the officer sat in his car and watched me till i finished the ice cream), and sitting in my front lawn drinking a pepsi. I assume that if I didn't have a mohawk and did not dress in punk fashion, these behaviors would not strike people as suspicious.

 

[Geigerclick]

It's not just racism,it's a general sense of "otherness" that people are uncomfortable with. I have been stopped by the police numerous times for complaints of "suspicious behavior" including walking to the gas station to buy cigarettes, going to dunkin donuts to get coffee, buying ice cream (in that case the officer sat in his car and watched me till i finished the ice cream), and sitting in my front lawn drinking a pepsi. I assume that if I didn't have a mohawk and did not dress in punk fashion, these behaviors would not strike people as suspicious.

You are describing xenophobia, not surprising in a world where people are exposed to such variety in their fellow man and woman. I think the only cure is time, exposure, and vigilance to ensure that free speech does not become incitement.

"The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic."

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

It's not just racism,it's a general sense of "otherness" that people are uncomfortable with. I have been stopped by the police numerous times for complaints of "suspicious behavior" including walking to the gas station to buy cigarettes, going to dunkin donuts to get coffee, buying ice cream (in that case the officer sat in his car and watched me till i finished the ice cream), and sitting in my front lawn drinking a pepsi. I assume that if I didn't have a mohawk and did not dress in punk fashion, these behaviors would not strike people as suspicious.

This sort of thing is possibly on the way out. Being myself a person in some small position of "authority" and having friends who style pink mohawks while wearing skirts I hardly blink and eye at such things. When I was "public safety" at a college we dealt with all sorts of people from punks to transexuals and at least one of my coworkers was waiting on acceptance to a position in the police force. While he was a conservative fellow I am sure that the humour of dealing with a male in a short skirt flashing his new implants at anyone who he thought might enjoy them probably tempered his reaction to such things.

Back in the day people used to react poorly to me walking down the street in my duster and fedora sporting a skull topped cane. Come to think of it I had some cops stick me up while at work in my security uniform just a couple years ago because they thought I was suspicious. lol

 

[mheslep]

Back in the day people used to react poorly to me walking down the street in my duster and fedora sporting a skull topped cane.

Why?

 

[GRB 080319B]

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=120656"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_North_America#Mexico"

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Mexico Honors Indians of the Past?[/URL]

"[URL
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[hagopbul]

Race War ?

Race War never stopped but it took another shape ,now people are classifying by race!

some countries in middle east have to this day a religion war -example iraq, ... etc,

but is it real or just a too; to control people using hate , blood and mind

 

[hagopbul]

tool*

 

[Char. Limit]

There was no need to double-post to edit your first post. We have an edit button for that.

On your first point, I don't believe "classifying by race" constitutes a race war. If it does, then every company that follows EOE regulations is involved in the conflict. After all, they all ask for your race and gender (even though it shouldn't matter in the first place). To be honest, I don't even think we should do that. I believe in a color-blind society. However, we do, and I would disagree that such actions constitute any sort of war, or even a conflict.

On your second point, the war in Iraq has little (but not nothing) to do with religion. The so-called "jihadists" use religion to justify their actions, but Islam, Christianity, and Judaism have little to do with it.

Now Israel, on the other hand, is very religion-driven, although there are other significant issues.

On your third point, I'm not sure what you're referencing. Is what real? A race war? Race wars are definitely real... Something else? I just don't know.

 

[hagopbul]

sorry for the double post. i wasnt referring to the war in iraq between US and iraq but after the war iraq suffered that kind of war

after the war iraq was divided basing on religion although the ex-regime was doing that ... but after the war some parties of iraq understand that if they want more power in the country this is one of the best methods ... that was ok by some americans too -the final 7 words is an gossip -

 

[GRB 080319B]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100805/us_nm/us_usa_immigration_newyork_1"

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/2...attacks-on-mexican-nationals/?iref=allsearch"

 

[mheslep]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100805/us_nm/us_usa_immigration_newyork_1"

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/2...attacks-on-mexican-nationals/?iref=allsearch"

And?