Is sexual reproduction an example of convergent evolution?

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The discussion centers on the origins of sexual reproduction and whether it represents an example of convergent evolution. Participants explore the possibility that sexual reproduction may have arisen independently in different eukaryote supergroups, focusing on the implications of this for evolutionary theory. The conversation touches on historical, biological, and theoretical aspects of evolution, particularly in relation to early life forms.

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that sexual reproduction may have arisen independently in various eukaryote supergroups, although this remains speculative.
  • Others express uncertainty about the ability to verify the origins of sexual reproduction due to the lack of concrete evidence from molecular biology or fossil records.
  • A participant mentions a book by John Maynard Smith and Eors Szathmary that discusses the origins of sex, suggesting it could provide insights into the question.
  • One viewpoint suggests that the evolution of sexual reproduction may have been advantageous, leading to speculation that it likely arose independently, though this is not backed by solid evidence.
  • Another participant discusses the complexity of how sexual reproduction evolved from simpler forms of reproduction, emphasizing the role of molecular processes in this transition.
  • There is mention of the debate surrounding the advantages of sexual reproduction, particularly whether these advantages are realized at the individual or group level, with references to group selection theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether sexual reproduction is an example of convergent evolution. Multiple competing views remain regarding its origins and the conditions under which it may have evolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in current understanding, including the challenges of tracing evolutionary history back to the Archaen and Proterozoic eons, and the unresolved nature of the advantages of sexual reproduction.

  • #31
nismaratwork said:
When Jon and I talk about the future of molecular biology, in part, what you're talking about is just that.

Right!
 
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  • #32
Nereid said:
And in the general context of my question, viruses are out of scope.

I cannot remember whether I have said this explicitly elsewhere, so forgive if I am getting repetitious, but certain viruses, the flu virus in particular, are in my opinion of enormous interest in the comparative study of mechanisms and evolutionary origins.
Just a reminder: the capsid of the flu virus is not of a particularly well defined shape or size. It ranges from a roughly spherical blob to a long tube. More to the point the genome is split, roughly gene by gene, into separate segments roughly analogous to chromosomes. These segments get packed apparently haphazardly into the capsids, so that as a rule one must be infected by a large number of capsids if one is to develop flu.
If the same cell is infected by different strains of flu, one gets incidental recombination, so that a totally new strain (or even several new strains) may emerge.
Note that this apparently inelegant mechanism not only is extremely, even dramatically, effective in nature, but on the one hand is far simpler than meiosis, therefore entailing a correspondingly smaller selective burden, and on the other it combines the functions of reduction and division.
The fact that we have such a radically different mechanism giving such nearly analogous functions illustrates how carefully we should consider the possibility that there might be unobvious alternatives to mechanisms that we otherwise might have considered as fundamental.
Items such as this have made me very pleased to have stumbled across a book of virology years ago. I had always regarded the field as uninspiring, but I found the book full of breathtaking examples, often with implications far beyond virology.
Cheers,
Jon
 

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