Is sine*sine a form of a standing wave?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the characterization of the wave function Asin(kx)sin(wt) and its relation to standing waves. Participants explore the mathematical representation of the wave and its implications in wave theory.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants examine the transformation of the wave function into a cosine form and question the implications of this representation for identifying standing waves. There is a focus on understanding the conditions under which the wave function represents a standing wave versus other types of waves.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the graphical interpretation of the wave function and whether the sine-sine form inherently indicates a standing wave. Others provide insights into the characteristics of standing waves, noting the importance of spatial terms in identifying nodes and antinodes.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the necessity of transforming the sine function into a cosine form for clarity, while also considering the implications of the original sine-sine equation. There is mention of potential confusion arising from the mathematical representation and the need for careful tracking of factors in the equations.

deadlytrogdor
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
What kind of wave is Asin(kx)sin(wt)?

Using trig functions, I've rewritten it as

Bcos(kx-wt) - Bcos(kx+wt)

So it sort of looks like it's a standing wave in that it's a superposition of two waves traveling in opposite directions with equal amplitude and wavelength, yet I'm unsure since it seems like the two waves would be canceling each other out perfectly.

So what is it? :confused:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You seem like you're on the right track. What do you mean they would be canceling each other out perfectly? You already saw that the equation could be written in terms of w(x,t)=Asin(kx)sin(wt), which is not 0. Also, I guess you're using a new factor B, but be sure to keep track of your factors of 2.
 
Okay. I guess I just wasn't thinking about this correctly graphically--I was thrown off by the minus sign instead of the plus sign.

So, just to be perfectly clear, it is then a standing wave, based off of what I said originally, correct?

Was it necessary for me to get it into the cos-cos form to see that it is a superposition of two waves, or is there a way to tell from the sin*sin equation that it is a standing wave? If it was like sin(kx)cos(wt) or something like that, I would have recognized it, but the sin*sin throws me off a bit.
 
Last edited:
Granted, standing waves are can be produced by interference, but I'd say the original equation describes it as a standing wave a bit better. You have a term that depends on frequency and time (wt), and you have a spatial term that will give nodes and antinodes. It's the spatial term that makes this a standing wave. It could be sin or cos.

sin(kx)cos(wt)=sin(kx)sin(wt+pi/2)=sin(2*pi/(lambda)*x)sin(wt+pi/2)

if x = lambda ± n*lambda/2 you have a node, I'll leave it to you to see how the antinodes would go

Maybe helpful
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/standw.html
 
excellent, thanks!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
8K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K