Is Super Symmetry Real: String Theory Predictions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the reality of supersymmetry (SUSY) and its relationship with string theory, exploring whether SUSY is a prediction of string theory or a broader concept applicable to other models. The scope includes theoretical implications, experimental evidence, and the nature of spacetime symmetries.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that there is currently no experimental evidence for supersymmetry, with hopes pinned on future discoveries at the Large Hadron Collider.
  • It is noted that while supersymmetry is a necessary component of some string models, it is not unique to string theory and can be applied to the Standard Model (SM), leading to the minimal supersymmetric standard model (MSSM).
  • One participant claims that supersymmetry arises naturally in string theory, although this assertion is questioned regarding its implications for string models without SUSY.
  • Questions are raised about the meaning of "arising naturally" in the context of string theory and whether SUSY is a consequence of strings, extra dimensions, or other factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between supersymmetry and string theory, with no consensus reached on whether SUSY is inherently linked to string models or if non-supersymmetric string models can exist.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of defining how supersymmetry manifests in string theory and the implications for models that do not incorporate SUSY, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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is super symmetry real or has been predicted by string theory?
 
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- There is no experimental evidence for supersymmetry, yet. A lot of people set hope into the Large Hadron Collider at CERN (european center for nuclear and particle physics) to find superpartners of known particles and hence (more or less) prove susy to exist.
- It's not a prediction by string theory but a necessary component of some string models (hence the name superstrings)*. It's not something unique to string theory, though. You can apply supersymmetry more or less directly to the SM which in the minimal version of a realistic model leads to the minimal supersymmetric standard model (MSSM), which might well be the most-examined model for physics beyond the standard model.

*: I'm not a stringer. It might be that it's a fundamental building block for all string models as some SUSY guy told me. However, since some stringer told us in a talk that there's string models with susy and string models without, I'm more inclined to believe that version, even though that information is a bit older.
 
Timo said:
- It's not a prediction by string theory but a necessary component of some string models. It's not something unique to string theory, though. You can apply supersymmetry more or less directly to the SM

All true, but it is still worth saying that it is really only in string theory that supersymmetry arises naturally.
 
Taking the maximum extension of spacetime symmetries already appears relatively natural (:rolleyes:) to me. How does it "arise naturally" in string theory (also in the sense of "what does that mean?") and what does that mean about string models without susy? If susy automatically arises from a string approach, then it seems that non-susy string models shouldn't be possible.
 
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Timo said:
Taking the maximum extension of spacetime symmetries already appears relatively natural (:rolleyes:) to me. How does it "arise naturally" in string theory (also in the sense of "what does that mean?") and what does that mean about string models without susy? If susy automatically arises from a string approach, then it seems that non-susy string models shouldn't be possible.

Yes, I would be glad to know how does susy appear in string theory ? Is it a consequence of strings or extra-dimensions (which can be wo strings) or both or something else ?

Thanks.
 

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