Is Text Speak Acceptable in Online Forums?

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The discussion centers around the acceptability of text speak in forums. Many participants express strong aversion to text speak, arguing that it complicates communication and reflects a lack of effort or understanding in written language. Users find it frustrating to decode messages filled with abbreviations and shorthand, which they believe detracts from the clarity and professionalism expected in forum interactions. Some participants note that while text speak may be acceptable in text messaging due to character limits, it has no place in more formal writing contexts. There is a consensus that clear communication should prioritize proper grammar and spelling, as it shows respect for the audience. The conversation also touches on the generational divide regarding language use, with some suggesting that younger users may rely on text speak out of habit or a desire to appear trendy. Overall, the thread advocates for maintaining high standards of written communication in online forums to facilitate effective discussions.
  • #31
jarednjames said:
It means "laugh out loud". What's there to understand? I know it indicates someone finds something funny, and I don't mind it used in that sense. My problem is that it seems to be stuck at the end of most sentences you see on the internet. Over used to a ridiculous extreme. Personally I prefer emoticons, but I'll say ha ha if I actually laugh.
Yes, it is an abbreviation for laughing out loud. What I was referring to is that in Dutch the word lol means fun. Maybe that's why I don't have as much of a problem with it. I do agree that inappropriate use in conversations just make you look stupid.
 
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  • #32
Monique said:
Yes, it is an abbreviation for laughing out loud. What I was referring to is that in Dutch the word lol means fun. Maybe that's why I don't have as much of a problem with it. I do agree that inappropriate use in conversations just make you look stupid.

In that sense I agree. However, I somehow doubt that any of the chavs who continuously through this abbreviation around recognise the Dutch connection/meaning.
 
  • #33
Ah yes. Text speak. Most people don't realize that the first text speak was invented long before we had voice commincation. Morse code. You think telegraph operators didn't use abreviations?
 
  • #34
jarednjames said:
There is a meaning to luls or lulz as it is now written. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lulz
Not a good source I know, but it gives the description of what it means.

I hate lol with a vengence. Everybody now writes lol, with everything.

The way people keep writing it you'd swear they spent their entire lives laughing. The most annoying thing I've heard in a while is when people actually use lol in conversation (spoken).

Someone says something, they respond with "lol". They don't laugh or anything, just say it.

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  • #35
Averagesupernova said:
Ah yes. Text speak. Most people don't realize that the first text speak was invented long before we had voice commincation. Morse code. You think telegraph operators didn't use abreviations?

Ah, good point. There was a whole sub-language used back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code_abbreviations
 
  • #36
leroyjenkens said:
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ROFL

(I wanted to post LOL, but three letters messages are too short).
 
  • #37
I actually rarely "lol" but if I do, it's because I actually did. And I generally only use it in live chat situations. But if I've typed "lol" it's because I'm laughing, out loud, for real, yes.

There's a young at my office who ends every written sentence in casual correspondence with "lol". That drives me nuts, although I do understand that he's not confident enough in his written communication skills that he trusts people will know he's joking when he writes something. Hence, "lol" at the end of each sentence to let you know he's kidding around. He's an actor and a improv comic in his spare time. You'd think he'd know that I realize he jokes around quite a bit.

The rest of text speak gets on my nerves in forum-writing situations, including Facebook. My best friend developed a bad habit of typing messages to me containing "ur". It bothered me so much, I now permanently refer to her as "ur" notwithstanding the context. I use it as a substitute for "you". (Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's supposed to be short for "you are" but I don't care. If you can type "ur" you can type "you are". As someone else pointed out earlier in this thread, no one is so busy that they must save milliseconds of time.)

Therefore, I write sentences to her such as, "How are ur today?" She caught on really quickly.

I understand text-speak writing for actual text messages. You are restricted to space and message size before it spills into a second message. Plus the tiny keyboards get on my nerves very, very quickly, so I can see the advantage. On Message boards or in e-mail, though? Not a chance. I actually have to slow down and stop and think in order to *not* type out the whole word. I touch-type; it goes quickly.

And yes, I perceive people who write posts or e-mails in text-speak as 1) not too bright, and/or 2) too lazy to be bothered to communicate clearly with me. And if you can't be bothered to speak clearly, then I can't be bothered trying to discuss anything with you. It's too difficult to try and figure out what they're trying to say, because, in my mind, when I read the letters, I "hear" the sounds of the letters and not the words those letters are supposed to stand for.

At my office, though, jokingly, we routinely say "brb" to each other when leaving a room.
 
  • #38
Averagesupernova said:
Ah yes. Text speak. Most people don't realize that the first text speak was invented long before we had voice commincation. Morse code. You think telegraph operators didn't use abreviations?

lisab said:
Ah, good point. There was a whole sub-language used back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code_abbreviations
Except that telegraph operators didn't write in morse code to people.

So, I don't get what is similar. Secretaries used shorthand, they didn't write to people they didn't know in shorthand.
 
  • #39
I also dislike text speak, but I think we do it because of the generation gap. We think its the new generation thing and hence don't like it :wink:
 
  • #40
Siv said:
I also dislike text speak, but I think we do it because of the generation gap. We think its the new generation thing and hence don't like it :wink:
Neither of my girls use text speak when they text, and I know that my youngest does a couple of thousand text messages a month, she says she can't stand text speak.
 
  • #41
My boyfriend is always suspicious when I am sitting behind my laptop laughing. When I do he'll say "you're at PF again, aren't you?" and starts stalking me. So, when I say lol, I mean lol :smile:
 
  • #42
Monique said:
My boyfriend is always suspicious when I am sitting laughing behind my laptop. When I do he'll say "you're at PF again, aren't you?" and starts stalking me. So, when I say lol, I mean lol :smile:

He should join!
 
  • #43
GeorginaS said:
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At my office, though, jokingly, we routinely say "brb" to each other when leaving a room.

Precisely my thoughts on the subject.

BRB is one of the few I do use. Not because I have to, but generally when I have to use it I'm in a rush to duck out really quickly (been summoned by a higher power in other words). So just hit brb and disappear and people know I'm not going to respond. And then that's only in IM conversations.

That is one of the only occasions I see that justifies the use.
 
  • #44
Monique said:
My boyfriend is always suspicious when I am sitting behind my laptop laughing. When I do he'll say "you're at PF again, aren't you?" and starts stalking me. So, when I say lol, I mean lol :smile:

Whenever my girlfriend sees me on the internet she asks if I'm on Physics Forums, usually it's followed with a yes, by which point she laughs :biggrin:
Oh and you won't catch me laughing too often on PF. More than likely any emotion I show would be shear frustration at some of the comments I read from the new guys up in the homework help section. Especially when they come in here talking in txt speak.
 
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  • #45
Evo said:
Except that telegraph operators didn't write in morse code to people.

So, I don't get what is similar. Secretaries used shorthand, they didn't write to people they didn't know in shorthand.

Ham radio operators aren't people? Depot operators (in the past) weren't people? There is no difference. Someone new to the ham community who could copy morse code efficiently could get on the air and see all these abreviations come in and think: "WTF?
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My parents who don't text but can easily read a text I would send them would look at my text-speak and say: "What the f...?".
 
  • #46
I've never typed text like messages. I remember when I first saw these texts, I was like WTF! :biggrin:
 
  • #47
drizzle said:
I've never typed text like messages. I remember when I first saw these texts, I was like WTF! :biggrin:

Okay, WTF is another one that's handy both in writing and to say out loud. WTF out loud is *very* funny.
 
  • #48
Evo said:
Except that telegraph operators didn't write in morse code to people.

dit dah dit dit _ dah dah dah _ dit dah dit dit :devil:
 
  • #49
GeorginaS said:
Okay, WTF is another one that's handy both in writing and to say out loud. WTF out loud is *very* funny.

I use that one, out loud. Sometimes just, "W...?"
 
  • #50
That is if you prefer WTF over OMG.
 
  • #51
dlgoff said:
dit dah dit dit _ dah dah dah _ dit dah dit dit :devil:

lol.
 
  • #52
Imagine a irate Ned Flanders text.
 
  • #53
Hey Don, is you're username a short for: "Don will go off"?


I guess once uncoded, right? :truedevil:
 
  • #54
Averagesupernova said:
Ham radio operators aren't people? Depot operators (in the past) weren't people? There is no difference.
That's not talking to the public like getting on a public forum like PF. That's talking to a specific group that uses the code. Big difference.

If someone uses text speak within their group, no problem, the problem is when they get on a public forum and use it.
 
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  • #55
evo said:
that's not talking to the public like getting on a public forum like pf. That's talking to a specific group that uses the code. Big difference.

10-4
 
  • #56
Imho, idm. Ipof, afaik, edi.
 
  • #57
Upisoft said:
10-4



Ten minus four is six, but I guess that's not what you mean.
 
  • #58
  • #59
Evo said:
All right, this thread has met the 3 post criteria, so I'm going off topic because I think this is cool.

The picture of trees is a picture of a cat. From now on all posts will be required to be hidden within the post. or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography#Digital_steganography

This reminds me about a programming language named http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29" . It uses only white-space characters, so when you print a program you get empty paper only...:-p
 
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  • #60
That's the greatest [s-t-u-p-i-d-e-s-t] idea ever.
 

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