Is Text Speak Acceptable in Online Forums?

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The discussion centers around the acceptability of text speak in forums. Many participants express strong aversion to text speak, arguing that it complicates communication and reflects a lack of effort or understanding in written language. Users find it frustrating to decode messages filled with abbreviations and shorthand, which they believe detracts from the clarity and professionalism expected in forum interactions. Some participants note that while text speak may be acceptable in text messaging due to character limits, it has no place in more formal writing contexts. There is a consensus that clear communication should prioritize proper grammar and spelling, as it shows respect for the audience. The conversation also touches on the generational divide regarding language use, with some suggesting that younger users may rely on text speak out of habit or a desire to appear trendy. Overall, the thread advocates for maintaining high standards of written communication in online forums to facilitate effective discussions.
  • #51
dlgoff said:
dit dah dit dit _ dah dah dah _ dit dah dit dit :devil:

lol.
 
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  • #52
Imagine a irate Ned Flanders text.
 
  • #53
Hey Don, is you're username a short for: "Don will go off"?


I guess once uncoded, right? :truedevil:
 
  • #54
Averagesupernova said:
Ham radio operators aren't people? Depot operators (in the past) weren't people? There is no difference.
That's not talking to the public like getting on a public forum like PF. That's talking to a specific group that uses the code. Big difference.

If someone uses text speak within their group, no problem, the problem is when they get on a public forum and use it.
 
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  • #55
evo said:
that's not talking to the public like getting on a public forum like pf. That's talking to a specific group that uses the code. Big difference.

10-4
 
  • #56
Imho, idm. Ipof, afaik, edi.
 
  • #57
Upisoft said:
10-4



Ten minus four is six, but I guess that's not what you mean.
 
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  • #59
Evo said:
All right, this thread has met the 3 post criteria, so I'm going off topic because I think this is cool.

The picture of trees is a picture of a cat. From now on all posts will be required to be hidden within the post. or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography#Digital_steganography

This reminds me about a programming language named http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29" . It uses only white-space characters, so when you print a program you get empty paper only...:-p
 
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  • #60
That's the greatest [s-t-u-p-i-d-e-s-t] idea ever.
 
  • #61
One time i thought i was found, but now this thread makes me feel lost :confused:
 
  • #62
Borek said:
Ten minus four is six, but I guess that's not what you mean.

That's ten-speak (Ten codes)
 
  • #63
Evo said:
All right, this thread has met the 3 post criteria, so I'm going off topic because I think this is cool.

The picture of trees is a picture of a cat. From now on all posts will be required to be hidden within the post. or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography#Digital_steganography

You mean like this? :devil:

143hmxe.png
 
  • #64
lisab said:
You mean like this? :devil:

I know. There is a headache hidden in the picture...:cry:
 
  • #65
lisab said:
You mean like this? :devil:

143hmxe.png
AAARRGHHH, my eyes!

Is that a *magic eye* type picture? I loved those books.
 
  • #66
leroyjenkens said:
Sometimes shorthand makes no sense. It's supposed to speed up typing, but it doesn't. I've seen shorthand where the person just omits one letter from the word. That's just pointless. There are no benefits to it. It makes you look stupid, it puts you in a habit of misspelling words, it's harder to read and it doesn't save much time, if any. If I type "are you serious?", it takes less than a second. If I type "r u srs?", it takes basically the same amount of time. No one is so strapped for time that they need to save milliseconds.

Don't mean to derail any conversations going on at this moment, please continue...

The text quoted in Leroy's post had me chuckling. To expand on his comment, taking one to two minutes typing something that could easily be left as a voice mail in less than ten seconds is wasteful.

My daughter texts at least 200 - 400 times per day, just think of all the time being wasted. I would be willing to bet that her important texts could be reduced by a factor of ten or more. She uses plenty of "text slang" as well.

Rhody...

P.S. Another pet peeve is trying to talk to someone and they keep being interrupted by and paying attention to their incoming text's instead of the conversation. This drives me nuts. I usually disengage from them. If they continue the bad habit after a polite reminder about it, then from them for good. Some people seem blissfully unaware of what they are doing however...
 
  • #67
Evo said:
AAARRGHHH, my eyes!

Is that a *magic eye* type picture? I loved those books.

aaaw, I'm so sad :cry:. It's a Fourier transform of a secret message, but when I copy it and feed it backwards through the software, it gets garbled. Dang.

Nevermind :frown:.
 
  • #68
lisab said:
aaaw, I'm so sad :cry:. It's a Fourier transform of a secret message, but when I copy it and feed it backwards through the software, it gets garbled. Dang.

Nevermind :frown:.
Why yes! I see that now! :smile:
 
  • #70
Text speak where it doesn't belong is just an immaturity thing. No more irritating than a lot of the other things teenagers do.
 
  • #71
Evo said:
Except that telegraph operators didn't write in morse code to people.

You're obviously far too young to remember The Capris and "The Morse Code of Love".
 
  • #72
Getting back to the original topic for a moment...

Generally speaking, I see the issue of textspeak as having little or nothing to do with individuality or expression.

The first rule of writing is to keep one's audience in mind. Make the effort to communicate thoughts that they are easy and enjoyable to read -- such that a total stranger doesn't feel like he or she is wasting time by reading it.

Sure, you can write all you want for yourself, and use whatever script or shorthand you wish. You can email your own writing to yourself and read it later. No problem. But if you want other people to read your writing, at least show them the common courtesy of communicating thoughts in ways that are easily readable, even it is more effort to write.

I understand that English is not the first language of many PF posters. And even then, it's easy to make spelling and grammar mistakes even if English is one's first language. I totally understand that. But I'm addressing something else.

And maybe, just maybe, there is some context where textspeak just might communicate an idea in the most concise and most readable way, such that if it were to be re-written in standard English some meaning would be lost. But that's a special case, and I'm not talking about that either.

As an example of what I am talking about, sometimes a given poster on the homework help sub-forums will leave out all punctuation and capitalization (tough to tell where one sentence ends and another begins); make a few textspeak-like abbreviations (more than just a lol here or there); and write numbers like 8.99 109 (instead of 8.99 x 109). Sometimes I just mutter to myself, "Really? You want me to help you with your homework, but you're not even going to make it easy for me to help you? ... Next."

(I'm limiting this to situations where one has the luxury of a full keyboard, and no harsh character limits [not to be confused with the PF member, Char. Limit] -- actual SMS texting and chat are different stories).

[Edit: 0 & 73375p33k is @ ∂iFf $t0ry 2, o' ¢0Я53. :smile:]
 
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  • #73
zomg umad ROFLCOPTOR
 
  • #74
Jimmy Snyder said:
That's the greatest [s-t-u-p-i-d-e-s-t] idea ever.

It is quite useful for secret agents, if they are out of invisible ink...
 
  • #75
collinsmark said:
[Edit: 0 & 73375p33k is @ ∂iFf $t0ry 2, o' ¢0Я53. :smile:]

And *that* takes way more time to type than I have energy for. The only thing leetspeak is hand for is devising passwords that I can remember. :biggrin:
 
  • #76
P.S. Another pet peeve is trying to talk to someone and they keep being interrupted by and paying attention to their incoming text's instead of the conversation. This drives me nuts. I usually disengage from them. If they continue the bad habit after a polite reminder about it, then from them for good. Some people seem blissfully unaware of what they are doing however...
This should be considered an insult as bad as calling a black person the N word.
I've initiated a conversation with someone before, right before they got a phone call, and they picked up the phone, without saying a word to me, and started talking. Next time someone does that, I'm going to take the phone from them and tell the person on the other line what they just did. Maybe they'll be respectable enough to not want to talk to someone who does that.
Or I'll kidnap them and waterboard them at my house. I haven't decided which.
 
  • #77
leroyjenkens said:
Or I'll kidnap them and waterboard them at my house. I haven't decided which.

lolwat
 
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