Is the derivative of 2x^2 = 4x or 8x?

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The discussion revolves around the derivative of the function 2x², with participants debating whether it is 4x or 8x. The conversation includes aspects of differentiation, terminology confusion, and the application of the power rule.

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  • Some participants assert that the derivative of 2x² is 4x, referencing the power rule of differentiation.
  • Others express confusion regarding the claim that the derivative could be 8x, suggesting it may stem from a misunderstanding or a different problem.
  • One participant highlights a potential miscommunication regarding the terminology of differentiation versus derivation.
  • Another participant proposes that the confusion might arise if someone is interpreting (2x)² instead of 2x², which would yield a derivative of 8x.

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Participants generally agree that the derivative of 2x² is 4x, but there is disagreement regarding the claim of 8x, with no consensus on the origin of that claim.

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There are unresolved issues regarding the correct terminology between differentiation and derivation, as well as potential misunderstandings about the expressions being differentiated.

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Call me crazy, but I do recall the power rule of integration viz: f(x) = x^n, f(x)' = n*x^n-1. Therefore, it seems as though 2x^2 would have a derivative of 4x. Fine. So why have I encountered someone else claiming that it's 8x? WHAT?! Who's right?
 
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5P@N said:
Call me crazy, but I do recall the power rule of integration viz: f(x) = x^n, f(x)' = n*x^n-1.
Do you really mean ##n * x^n - 1##? That's what you wrote. As inline text, use parentheses -- n*x^(n - 1)

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Therefore, it seems as though 2x^2 would have a derivative of 4x.
Yes. ##d/dx(2x^2) = 4x##.
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Fine. So why have I encountered someone else claiming that it's 8x? WHAT?! Who's right?
Maybe they're working a different problem.
 
5P@N said:
So why have I encountered someone else claiming that it's 8x?
I can think of many reasons, but none of them involve mathematics.
 
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I haven't yet applied Latex (I'm going to read the article after I finish reading this other long article on u-substitution - I'm really trying here), but what I mean is the super basic power rule of derivatives: f(x) = xn, f(x)' = nxn-1
 
You are right, the other person must have a brain worm. Also, I would write ##f'(x)## instead of ##f(x)'##.

EDIT: Could you prove that the other has a brain worm?
 
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And just for the record: I meant DERIVATION, not integration.o0)
 
5P@N said:
And just for the record: I meant DERIVATION, not integration.o0)
Contrary to much popular opinion, the opposite of integration is differentiation, not derivation. You can derive the quadratic formula using the completion of squares technique, but you differentiate ##2x^2## to get the derivative, 4x. Yes, English is weird...
 
Mark44 said:
Contrary to much popular opinion, the opposite of integration is differentiation, not derivation. You can derive the quadratic formula using the completion of squares technique, but you differentiate ##2x^2## to get the derivative, 4x. Yes, English is weird...
Thanks for clarifying. I sometimes get confused because the result of differentiation is a derivative (obeying the product rule) and the result of integration is an anti-derivative. Is that correct or am I still confusing terms?
 
fresh_42 said:
Thanks for clarifying. I sometimes get confused because the result of differentiation is a derivative (obeying the product rule) and the result of integration is an anti-derivative. Is that correct or am I still confusing terms?
No, you have it right.
 
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Perhaps "someone else" meant (2x)2, which has the derivative 8x.
 
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