Is the field extension normal?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether certain field extensions are normal, specifically examining extensions like Q(a):Q and Q(1+i):Q. Participants are exploring the concept of normality in field extensions through the analysis of minimal polynomials and their roots.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the method of finding minimal polynomials and checking if all roots are contained within the field extension. There is also a consideration of examples to illustrate normal and non-normal extensions.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes confirmations of understanding regarding normal extensions, with some participants providing examples and questioning the conditions under which extensions may not be normal. There is an exploration of different cases without reaching a definitive consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants are operating under the assumption that the minimal polynomial's roots must be fully contained within the field for normality, and there is a mention of specific roots being real or imaginary affecting the normality of the extensions.

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I've been asked to find out if some field extensisons are normal. I want to know if I'm thinking about these in the right way.

For Q(a):Q

I first find the minimal polynomial for a in Q[a]. Then I look at all zeros of that polynomial. If all of the zeros are in Q(a) the extension is normal.


Example:

Q(1+i):Q

1+i = x
-1 = x^2-2x+1

x^2-2x+2 is irreducible over Q and the minimal polynomial of 1+i.

the zereos are: 1+i, 1-i

they are both in Q(1+i) so this is a normal extension.


Correct?
 
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Yes, it's normal. Do you know why field extensions might not be normal?
 
Q(2^(1/3)):Q is not normal since the minimal polynomial has two imaginary roots that are not in Q(2^(1/3)). Is that the right idea?
 
I forgot to say that 2^(1/3) is the real cube root of two.
 
Yes, I think so. In your first example, including one root automatically includes the other. In the second it doesn't include the other roots.
 

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