Is the Given Set of Vectors a Subspace?

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The problem involves determining whether a given set of vectors forms a subspace. The vectors are expressed as linear combinations with parameters t and s, and the inquiry centers on the properties that define a subspace in vector spaces.

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  • Participants discuss the necessary properties for a set of vectors to qualify as a subspace, including closure under addition and scalar multiplication. Questions arise about how to apply these properties without initially knowing if the vectors belong to the subspace.

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Some participants have suggested checking if the zero vector is included in the set as a starting point. Others have raised concerns about the implications of linear independence and how it affects the determination of whether the set is a subspace. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without reaching a consensus.

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There is an emphasis on checking specific properties of subspaces, such as the inclusion of the zero vector and closure under operations, while acknowledging the complexity of determining these properties given the initial conditions of the problem.

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Determine whether or not the set of vectors:

[tex]\left\{\bar{x}=t<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}1\\2\\1\end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> <br /> +s\left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}1\\1\\1\end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> <br /> +\left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}1\\0\\2\end{array}<br /> \right),-\infty < t,s < \infty<br /> \right\}[/tex]

is a subspace.


I really have no idea how to go about this. Do I just check if they are linear combinations of each other?
 
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What properties does a set of vectors have to have to be a subspace? Look it up and start checking the properties.
 
1) If A belongs to W, and B belongs to W, then A+B belongs to W
2) If A belongs to W and r is in the space Rn, then rA belongs to W

I don't understand how this applies to the problem. How can apply property 1 for example if I don't know if A or B belongs to W to begin with?
 
For the second property, you mean "r is in R", I think. That means if W is a vector space then 0*A=(0,0,0) is in the space. That's usually listed as one of the conditions. I would first try checking if (0,0,0) is in W. Is there any choice of s and t that will produce the vector (0,0,0)?
 
No, because when you row-reduce the matrix all the columns are linearly independent, which means they can only equal zero if their coefficients are zero. Since vector three doesn't have a coefficient, they can never equal zero. Therefore, they are not a subspace.

Is my reasoning correct?
 
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No, because when you row-reduce the matrix all the columns are linearly independent, which means they can only equal zero if their coefficients are zero. Since vector three doesn't have a coefficient, they can never equal zero. Therefore, they are not a subspace.

Is my reasoning correct?

Sure. If the zero vector isn't in your space, then it's not a subspace.
 
But that is how I would go about solving it on a test? Just row reduce the vectors and determine whether or not a zero vector is possible?
 
That's not the only thing. But it's a good starting point. Then you also have to prove the set has closure under addition, if a and b are in W then a+b is in W, and under scalar multiplication, a is in W then r*a is in W. Just what you said. But the zero vector is a good starting point. If zero isn't in the set, you can forget the other two.
 

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