Is the Gradient of a Composite Function Always Zero?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the gradient of a composite function, particularly whether it is always zero. Participants are examining the implications of a given equation and exploring the conditions under which the gradient holds certain values.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are considering the application of the gradient to both sides of an equation and discussing the necessity of proving both directions of a theorem. There is also a focus on the chain rule and the components of the gradient in relation to the composite function.

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Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical reasoning involved, including the use of the chain rule and the representation of gradients. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the reverse direction of the proof, indicating that the discussion is ongoing and exploratory.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of an "if and only if" statement in the context of the problem, which adds a layer of difficulty to their exploration.

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I think I have a starting point, but I'm not 100% sure
Basically I thought of just computing grad(f(α(t)) · dα/dt and showing its equal to zero.

Am I on the right track, or shall I try another approach?
 
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hey tnp, i think you might want to start by taking the gradient of both sides of the original equation: grad(f(α(t)) = grad(c)

as the prove is an "if & only if", you might have to think about whether this proves both directions of the theorem, ie. "if" and "only if"
 
\cdotok, say I were to take grad of lhs, I need to apply chain rule since f(α(t))

so..

df/dt = (df/dα)(dα/dt)

I recognise (dα/dt) as [tex]\dot{\alpha}[/tex], which leads me to

df/dt = (df/dα)([tex]\dot{\alpha}[/tex])

Also, since [tex]\alpha[/tex] has components [tex]\alpha[/tex]1, [tex]\alpha[/tex]2, [tex]\alpha[/tex]3, ..., [tex]\alpha[/tex]n+1

df/dα = ([tex]\partial[/tex]f/d[tex]\alpha[/tex]1, [tex]\partial[/tex]f/d[tex]\alpha[/tex]2, ...,[tex]\partial[/tex]f/d[tex]\alpha[/tex]n+1) which I recognise is [tex]\nabla[/tex]f(α(t)),

this df/dt = [tex]\nabla[/tex]f(α(t)) [tex]\cdot[/tex] [tex]\dot{\alpha}[/tex] which is what I wanted.

I hope I'm correct up to here and it isn't too messy to show with the latex...o:)

But as you said before, the question states, if and only if, which means I have to show both ways. Puzzled as to how to do the reverse way...
 
can anybody help please? :P
 
Could you possibly provide me the name of the textbook?

Regards.
 

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