Is the Metric Space (X,d) Separable and Compact?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the metric space (X, d), where X is defined as the set of sequences of real numbers bounded between 0 and 1, and d is a specific metric involving an infinite sum. Participants are tasked with demonstrating that this space is a metric space, separable, and compact.

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  • Participants explore the properties of the metric space, with initial attempts to prove that it satisfies the conditions of a metric space. There are discussions about the existence of convergent subsequences within sequences in X, and participants question the validity of proposed subsequences.

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Some participants have provided partial proofs regarding the metric space properties, while others are engaged in clarifying and questioning the construction of subsequences. There is an ongoing exploration of how to demonstrate convergence without excessive notation, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Homework Statement



X={x | xn E R | 0[tex]\leq[/tex] x [tex]\leq[/tex] 1}
d(x,y)= [tex]\Sigma[/tex]n=1infinity |xn - yn|*2-j
Show:
1. (X,d) is a metric space
2. (X,d) is separable
3. (X,d) is compact

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Here we go.
number 1.
Show that d(x,y)=d(y,x):
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]n=1infinity |xn - yn|*2-j = [tex]\Sigma[/tex]n=1infinity |yn - xn|*2-j

Show that d(x,x)=0:
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]n=1infinity |xn - xn|*2-j = [tex]\Sigma[/tex]n=1infinity 0*2-j = 0

Show d(x,y)[tex]\leq[/tex]d(x,z)+d(z,y):
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]n=1infinity |xn - zn|*2-j + [tex]\Sigma[/tex]n=1infinity |zn - yn|*2-j
 
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So you've proven that it is a metric space. That's good!
Now it suffices to show 3 (since every compact metric space is separable).

So take a sequence in X, we will show that it has a convergent subsequence. The sequence in X has the form
[tex](x_{1,1}, x_{1,2}, x_{1,3}, x_{1,4},...)[/tex]
[tex](x_{2,1}, x_{2,2}, x_{2,3}, x_{2,4},...)[/tex]
[tex](x_{3,1}, x_{3,2}, x_{3,3}, x_{3,4},...)[/tex]
[tex](x_{4,1}, x_{4,2}, x_{4,3}, x_{4,4},...)[/tex]

The first vertical sequence has a convergent subsequence, say [tex]x_{k^1_n,1}\rightarrow x_1[/tex]. Now consider the sequence [tex]x_{k^1_n,2}[/tex], this has a convergent subsequence, say [tex]x_{k^2_n,2}\rightarrow x_2[/tex]. And so on and so on.

Now I claim that the above sequence has a convergent subsequence which converges to [tex](x_1,x_2,x_3,...)[/tex]. Can you see which one?
 
I believe it'd be: (x1,1, x2,2, x3,3, ...)?
 
That makes no sense... What you wrote is only one element. And it's not even an element of the sequence...

You'll need to find infinitly many "sequences"...
 
I'll try to give the subsequence. But it's not easy, try to visualize it.

So the construction is as follows:
Write our original sequence once more, this is

[tex](x_{1,1},x_{1,2},x_{1,3},x_{1,4},...)[/tex]
[tex](x_{2,1},x_{2,2},x_{2,3},x_{2,4},...)[/tex]
[tex](x_{3,1},x_{3,2},x_{3,3},x_{3,4},...)[/tex]
[tex](x_{4,1},x_{4,2},x_{4,3},x_{4,4},...)[/tex]

The first vertical sequence, i.e. [tex](x_{n,1})_n[/tex] has a convergent subsequence [tex](x_{k^1_n,1})_n[/tex] which converges to [tex]x_1[/tex]
The sequence [tex](x_{k^1_n,2})_n[/tex] has a convergent subsequence which converges to [tex]x_2[/tex].
(So we take subsequences of subsequences)

Now take the first element of the first subsequence, i.e. take [tex]x_{k^1_1,1}[/tex] and take the corresponding element: [tex](x_{k^1_1,1},x_{k^1_1,2},x_{k^1_1,3},...)[/tex].
Now take the first element of the second subsequence, i.e. take [tex]x_{k^2_1,2}[/tex] and take the corresponding element: [tex](x_{k^2_1,1},x_{k^2_1,2},x_{k^2_1,3},...)[/tex].
Keep repeating this, we obtain the following sequence:
[tex](x_{k^1_1,1},x_{k^1_1,2},x_{k^1_1,3},...)[/tex].
[tex](x_{k^2_1,1},x_{k^2_1,2},x_{k^2_1,3},...)[/tex].
[tex](x_{k^3_1,1},x_{k^3_1,2},x_{k^3_1,3},...)[/tex].
[tex](x_{k^4_1,1},x_{k^4_1,2},x_{k^4_1,3},...)[/tex].

Try to show that this sequence converges...
 
How exactly would you prove this using the original equation?
 
It's really hard to explain without excessive notation :frown: I'd like it better if you could come up with it, instead of me saying how the proof goes...
 

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