Is the Reciprocal of dX/dY Equal to dY/dX?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the derivatives dX/dY and dY/dX, specifically whether the reciprocal of dX/dY equals dY/dX. The context includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding derivatives and their interpretations in linear equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if dX/dY = 3, then it follows that dY/dX = 1/3.
  • Another participant agrees with the reciprocal relationship but warns of potential pitfalls in more general situations.
  • A participant elaborates on the local approximation of functions and the inversion of relations, suggesting that dX/dY can be expressed as 1/(dY/dX) under certain conditions.
  • Questions are raised about the notation used for specific points (x_0, y_0) and the interpretation of slopes in linear equations.
  • Clarification is sought on whether the rate of change of y with respect to X is represented by the coefficient of (x - x_0) or (y - y_0), and whether this relationship is limited to linear equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express agreement on the reciprocal relationship between dX/dY and dY/dX in the specific case discussed, but there is acknowledgment of complexities in broader contexts. Some questions remain unresolved regarding notation and the application of these concepts beyond linear equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion is focused on local approximations and specific points, which may limit the general applicability of the conclusions drawn. The implications of the relationship between the derivatives may vary in non-linear contexts.

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if dX/dY is the rate of change of X with respect to Y
say that dX/dY = 3
now would it be correct if i say that the rate of change of Y with respect to X = 1/3 = dY/dX ?
 
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Yes, it is. (but there are many pitfalls in more general situations!)

In YOUR case, suppose you are at point (x_0,y_0), where y_0=Y(x_0), and where dY/dX=3.

That means that in a neigbourhood of (x_0,y_0), Y(x) can be approximated by:
[tex]Y\approx{y}_{0}+\frac{dY}{dx}|_{x=x_{0}}(x-x_{0})[/tex]
That is, you function looks like the straight line:
[tex]y=y_{0}+3(x-x_{0})[/tex]
Locally, you can invert this relation, solving x in terms of "y", and we may write:
[tex]x=x_{0}+\frac{1}{3}(y-y_{0})[/tex]

But, this is "of course", the same as saying, roughly, that dX/dY=1/(dY/dX)=1/3
 
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arildno said:
Yes, it is. (but there are many pitfalls in more general situations!)

In YOUR case, suppose you are at point (x_0,y_0), where y_0=Y(x_0), and where dY/dX=3.

That means that in a neigbourhood of (x_0,y_0), Y(x) can be approximated by:
[tex]Y\approx{y}_{0}+\frac{dY}{dx}|_{x=x_{0}}(x-x_{0})[/tex]
That is, you function looks like the straight line:
[tex]y=y_{0}+3(x-x_{0})[/tex]
Locally, you can invert this relation, solving x in terms of "y", and we may write:
[tex]x=x_{0}+\frac{1}{3}(y-y_{0})[/tex]

But, this is "of course", the same as saying, roughly, that dX/dY=1/(dY/dX)=1/3

okay i understand but i have two questions
what does the underscore you used at the beginning mean ?
in (x_0 ) for instance
and second , in a linear equation , we describe the slope as the coefficient of (y-y0) Or (x-x0) ?
or is it such that the rate of change of y with respect to X is the co-efficient of ( x - xnaught ) and the rate of change of X with respect to y in another equation is the co-efficient of (y-y0) ?
also does this only apply to linear equations ?
 
I use (x_0, y_0) to denote a specific point VALUE, to distinguish from the VARIABLES (x,y)
 

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